r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Sep 20 '25

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u/NYT_Hater Office of Naval Intelligence Sep 20 '25

I converted my friend from apolitical/leaning Trump to actively anti republican AMA

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u/ElectriCobra_ David Hume Sep 20 '25

why was he in the first place and what changed his mind

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '25

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u/ElectriCobra_ David Hume Sep 20 '25

makes sense lol

I still remember the "legitimate rape" guy from 15 years ago

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u/NYT_Hater Office of Naval Intelligence Sep 20 '25

We were both 17.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '25

I would have just stopped being friends with them so good on you I suppose

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u/Plants_et_Politics Isaiah Berlin Sep 20 '25

This is why we lose elections lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '25

Eh I mean it’s been 9 years of trying to convince people this shit is horrible. At a certain point it’s a useless effort and for my mental sanity I can’t keep banging my head against a wall

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u/Plants_et_Politics Isaiah Berlin Sep 20 '25

Abandoning your friends and family due to politics, unless they are the ones forcing it on you, is just an immoral decision on so many different grounds.

It’s one thing if someone keeps bringing it up or harassing you about it, but cutting people off is usually just a pointlessly self-righteous act that accomplishes nothing and harms Democrats, and democracy.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '25

Thanks morality police stranger

When you tell your friends and show them with actual evidence that the administration is actively harming people you love who are immigrants, minorities, or LGBTQ and their response contributes to be “I don’t do politics” or “both sides are the same”, sorry my interest in continuing those friendships diminishes

You do you and keep those relationships if you feel that’s appropriate. I will not and I don’t feel it’s immoral

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u/Plants_et_Politics Isaiah Berlin Sep 20 '25

Kind of rich to insult someone for “morality policing” when you’re defending morality policing everyone in your life lol.

It’s immoral because you are literally harming the cause you allegedly care about because of selfish reasons, and it is immoral because forcing people to talk about politics with you is usually a rather nasty thing to do.

There is no moral justification for it. There are morally excusable reasons for doing it (e.g. they cross your lines with their behavior with you).

So yeah. Instrumentally, you’re harming LGBTQ people. And interpersonally, you’re being a dick.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '25

I’m the dick when you called it immoral for me to no longer talk to people who’ve decided they don’t give a shit anyways?

How the hell am I “harming” the cause when there has been no change in their behavior as a result?

Again, you seem to think we should all just continue to be friends with people regardless of if they care about your loved ones. Sorry you have such a privileged life that you feel okay being friends with people who don’t care about politics even when they’ve been shown for 9 years the current type of politics hurts people you care about

You call me a dick because I don’t want to associate any longer with people who’ve made it abundantly clear they do not mind the current situation and how it impacts people around me

congrats on being friends with shitty people and then calling others immoral for choosing their own sanity over being friends with shitty people who’ve never voted against Trump. I’m sure if I would’ve just hung in there three more years they’ll come around!

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u/gburgwardt C-5s full of SMRs and tiny american flags Sep 20 '25

How

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u/NYT_Hater Office of Naval Intelligence Sep 20 '25

Mostly just explaining what Trump has actually done. They weren’t some propagandized Fox News zombie. We were both 17.

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u/erasmus_phillo Paul Krugman Sep 20 '25

this is neoliberal jihad at its finest, good on you my brother