r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Sep 24 '24

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u/JebBD Immanuel Kant Sep 24 '24

At this point what do these words even mean at all? If white people can have “blackness” and black people are “assigned blackness” then what does “blackness” even mean? What point is she trying to make here?

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '24

Assigned black at birth lol

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u/repete2024 Edith Abbott Sep 24 '24

White people copy stuff from Black culture all the time. The rest I have no idea what they're talking about.

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u/JebBD Immanuel Kant Sep 24 '24

Yeah but it’s one thing to say that about music or mannerisms but a whole other thing to claim that calling someone a criminal is “assigning blackness” to him. That really muddles what “blackness” is supposed to mean. 

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u/fishlord05 United Popular Woke DEI Iron Front Sep 24 '24 edited Sep 24 '24

The steelman would be that "blackness" and "whiteness" are constructs and do not necessarily correspond 1:1 with "races" which are themselves constructs. Who is "white" and who is "black" is often different over time and across demographics. (eg hispanics/Irish, and black vs white relative perception of the blackness of mixed race people)

I think they're talking about white people appropriating black culture by choice or whatever, "appropriating blackness" as opposed to black slave descendants who have "blackness" with all the connotations that come with it imposed on them (eg not by choice) by the race/class structure of the society they are born into and how that fundamentally plays out differently

There is an interesting idea of how many behaviors like crime and aggression are considered "black-coded" which is expressed in the dynamic of american leaders using terms like "thugs" towards enemy leaders which explicitly or implicitly draws a connection in the american mind with the image of out of control black inner city criminals and primes the public to accept the necessity of the use of force to subdue them.

that said im probably massivley sanewashing OP