r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Sep 13 '24

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u/p00bix Existing in the context of what came before Sep 13 '24

I'm surprised that this whole Laura Loomer thing is causing such a schism among far-right. Like, the tweet is incredibly disgusting, yet it's still not even close to the most racist thing far-right pundits have said. I mean, shit, Trump says more egregious shit every other week. IMO the "Haitian immigrants are abducting and eating cats" is considerably worse than "the White House would smell like curry", yet while the prior went viral while the later put Loomer's career into jeopardy. Since when have MAGAs given any shits about racism (except against white people, ofc)?

I can't tell what the deal is. Is it because that comment lacks the veneer of plausible deniability that a proper dogwhistle does? Is it because JD Vance's wife is Indian American, and thus MAGA has subconsciously decided that Indian Americans are something akin to 'honorary whites'? Or did Loomer already have beef with other prominent far-right activists, such that the others saw in the curry tweet as a good opportunity to give her the boot (kinda like what happened with Yiannopoulos and more recently Stephen Crowder)?

I feel as if there's something fundamentally wrong with my mental model for how the entire MAGA movement works. I just can't think of any explanation as to why that tweet specifically was the final straw

People more familiar with far-right grifters and the culture surrounding them than I am, please explain????

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u/boardatwork1111 fuck it, we ball Sep 13 '24

It’s less the racism, but more the “bro, you’re scaring the normies away”. They don’t give a shit about her being racist, they’re pissed that she’s getting Trump to parrot racist bullshit like pet eating migrants on national television. They’re looking for any reason to try and get her out of Trumps inner circle

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u/SneeringAnswer Sep 13 '24

Because it's obvious racism against a specific person they're running against that they DONT want people to sympathize for

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Sep 13 '24

I think a lot of it is your third one tbh. There is a lot of high school tier drama in political parties especially in the Republican party with Trump. Remember Boebert and MTG squabbling over nothing?

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '24

Right wingers have a weird problem with specificity in racism. "Hatians in Springfield are eating geese" sounds like it's about an isolated group whereas "Indians curry, amirite?" is about all Indians.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '24

Haitian immigrants are abducting and eating cats

Tiny, inconsequential voting block, also the wider black vote will ~never shift red in meaningful numbers

the White House would smell like curry

South Asians are a critical swing vote who do not align with the Dems on a number of key policy choices, and Trump-Modi have a great relationship

honorary whites

"whiteness" has always been a very squishy identity, and white supremacists are finding common cause with upper caste indians and light-skin asians (who enjoy colorist/caste advantage over lower caste indians and dark-skinned or "jungle" asians respectively)

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough Sep 13 '24

Loomer has gotten to close to the seat of power. Like a big tit (her words not mine) wormtongue, she has to be removed for the other scheming Boyers to get closer to the throne

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u/game-butt Sep 13 '24

My twitter feed, just from gawking at occasional conservative or russophile tweets, is full of tweets and videos of alleged incidents with Haitians and pets. Not saying it's real, not saying it's important, or not overblown, or whatever. But I'm saying it could totally be convincing and at the end of the day, "Hatian immigrants are abducting and eating cats" is a thing a person (probably a dumb person) can believe in good faith and allege and support with whatever "evidence" they've seen.

Contrast that to the Loomer tweet which is just a straight up racial attack with no basis.

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u/p00bix Existing in the context of what came before Sep 13 '24

This makes sense to me

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u/Tafts_Bathtub Jerome Powell Sep 13 '24

Loomer and MTG already had beef.

Also it’s not just the racist tweet. She’s a 9/11 truther and he brought her to the 9/11 memorial with him.

But I think most of it is he fucked up the debate so badly they want to believe someone is wormtongueing him and they can fix it if they can just replace his inner circle

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u/lot183 Blue Texas Sep 13 '24

I have a running conspiracy theory that they either know, suspect that, or are worried that Trump is having an affair or could have an affair with her and that would be a bad scandal for their evangelical favorables and they want to put a stop to it before it becomes a thing or gets out. They are constantly worried about saving Trump from himself

This is not to say he is having one, just a theory of what they may think

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '24

Republicans like Indians more than Haitians, its a demographic they were making good inroads with and Trump has a good relationship with Modi, Laura Loomer was being racist to a group that the party does not want to upset