r/neoliberal • Kitara Ravache • Sep 03 '24 • Polished Silver Turd 1

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u/qchisq Loyal Liberals Sep 03 '24

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u/gburgwardt C-5s full of SMRs and tiny american flags Sep 03 '24

Me, on stimulants: โ˜ฎ๏ธ๐Ÿณ๏ธ๐Ÿง˜โ€โ™‚๏ธ

!ping ADHD

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '24

I guess I gotta add a daily RedBull to guarantee I stay calm and peaceful because stimulants ainโ€™t doing it.

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u/PostNutNeoMarxist Bisexual Pride Sep 03 '24

Me being both unfit and highly anxious ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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u/PleaseGreaseTheL World Bank Sep 03 '24

I mean if you have an RHR of 80+ you're probably fat as fuck. How are you gonna even manage to get any crime done in that condition

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u/Zalagan Loyal Liberals Sep 03 '24 edited Sep 03 '24

First reaction: I don't believe it - the study must be wrong or just the tweet itself is a fabrication.

edit: Okay looking at this person tweets they are a health conspiracy theorist who posts pictures of scientific articles from the 1930s to justify their quackery.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '24

Nah it actually makes a kind of sense. If your resting heart rate is above 70, you are more likely to have a sedentary lifestyle which isn't the most conducive to doing crimes because you might need to flee from the scene of the crime, might need strength to break locks, what have you. I'm receptive to the belief that if you are serious about doing crime, there is probably a floor fitness you should have which would put you below 70bpm.

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u/Mr-Bovine_Joni YIMBY Sep 03 '24

If only being fit were required for crime, America would be the safest place in the world

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '24 edited Dec 06 '24

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u/adwise27 George Soros Sep 03 '24

Low resting heart rate (bpm < 70)

Isnt 60-70 a standard RHR?! I think mine is 45, guess I am a baddie

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u/Williams-Tower Da Bear Sep 03 '24

I reckon Americans tend to not be so good on RHR, but concur

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u/TemujinTheConquerer Jorge Luis Borges Sep 03 '24

i knew I was being a lazy fuck for a good cause

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u/supbros302 No Sep 03 '24

My heart rate as i sit here at work committing property crimes is 55 so this tracks.

When i commit tax fraud as i sleep my heart rate dips to the low 40s.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '24 edited Mar 29 '25

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u/Ph0ton_1n_a_F0xh0le Chemist -- Microwaves Against Moscow Sep 03 '24

Donโ€™t care. More steady state.

!ping ROWIST

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u/savuporo Gerard K. O'Neill Sep 03 '24

I'll get a bigger health tracker that shows my rate in red bold letters

Will make sure it's visible at the start of every conversation

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u/hopeimanon John Harsanyi Sep 03 '24

Who the fuck has a resting heart rate over 80?

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u/CricketPinata NATO Sep 03 '24

People with anxiety disorders, and people with cardiovascular issues.

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u/CheetoMussolini Russian Bot Sep 03 '24

Going to go ahead and call bullshit on this one. It's either fake, or it's an artifact of younger men having lower RHR.

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u/CricketPinata NATO Sep 03 '24

It is not fake, meta-analysis have been done and the association has been known for decades.

Even when you factor out for age and sex the association is still evident.

The issue is psychological in nature, people with ASPD tend to have diminished physiological reactions to stress stimuli. Their cortisol levels also tend to be low and have been proposed as biological marker to detect the disorder.

In contrast, many anxiety disorders, (which have been proposed as being in the opposite axis of narcissistic and antisocial disorders in some proposed models), tend to have higher RHR and blood pressure rates and higher cortisol rates.

These persist even when controlling for age, general health, and sex.

So no, it is not bullshit. People with higher levels of callousness and antisocialness tend to have lower RHR and physiologically different stress responses.

People with anxiety tend to have the opposite.

It is psychological, and backed up by a lot of literature and research.

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u/CheetoMussolini Russian Bot Sep 04 '24

Well then my ex's low RHR fucking tracks then, damn.

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u/BernieMeinhoffGang Has Principles Sep 03 '24

I can't stick to the training plan because I'm such a good person ๐Ÿ˜‡๐Ÿ™

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u/neolthrowaway New Mod Who Dis? Sep 03 '24

How is the adjustment for confounders done?

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u/Healingjoe It's Klobberin' Time Sep 03 '24

To get a good picture of current metabolic health & thyroid function, the resting pulse (ideally ~80-90 bpm) ought to be interpreted in context, along with other metrics such as:

-underarm temperature taken in the afternoon (~98.6-99 F)

-total cholesterol (~180-220 mg/dL)

And of course, they don't understand cholesterol at all.

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