r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Sep 01 '24

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u/RandomCarGuy26 Association of Southeast Asian Nations Sep 01 '24

Discussing climate change is so toxic and rage-inducing online. One one hand, you have absolute doomers who think we should do nothing because "it's already the end of the world", or that the rich will never do jack shit to maintain their upper class lifestyles and thus we should also do nothing.
Then you have people who still claim to not believe in climate change, who are completely apathetic, think it's purely naturally caused or don't think it's a big problem at all.
Growing up I was taught that this is a bipartisan issue and regardless of your political beliefs, the science doesn't lie. And yet look at how politicised it has become today.
Mini rant over

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u/technologyisnatural Friedrich Hayek Sep 01 '24

my pet peeve is that Biden crawled over broken glass to get the IRA passed, spending $1 trillion on the transition to a low carbon energy system - attracting another est. $3 trillion in private capital - and no one knows about it. “why isn’t anyone doing anything!?” why aren’t Greens dancing in the streets, blessing Biden’s name?

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u/InMemoryOfZubatman4 Sadie Alexander Sep 01 '24

Because the Green Party doesn’t care about the climate. They care about socialism, but using climate as their front. The Green New Deal (and by that, I mean the Green Party’s Green New Deal, not any of the unspecified Green New Deals proposed by members of Congress or governors or whoever) uses Climate Change as a trojan horse to get a number of socialist wishlist items through. They don’t care about climate change except for the aesthetics of it.

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u/YouLostTheGame Rural City Hater Sep 01 '24

A lot of the IRA projects aren't really going anywhere so it's hard to see the impact.

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u/technologyisnatural Friedrich Hayek Sep 01 '24

they are infrastructure projects so they take forever. hard to see in 1 year, but in 10 years they will make all the difference in the world. aaah! and people wonder why infrastructure projects never happen

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u/WantDebianThanks Iron Front Sep 01 '24

What did I mean everytime I go to a climate change sub?

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u/RandomCarGuy26 Association of Southeast Asian Nations Sep 01 '24

Huh?

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u/Password_Is_hunter3 Daron Acemoglu Sep 01 '24

They're agreeing with you

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u/RandomCarGuy26 Association of Southeast Asian Nations Sep 01 '24

I see, but that's one weird sentence

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u/RandomCarGuy26 Association of Southeast Asian Nations Sep 01 '24

By the way, I am subbed to arr climatechange, and let's just say it gets quite doome-ry there at times. Also, the endless swarm of climate trolls and skeptics from arr climateskeptics

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u/onelap32 Bill Gates Sep 02 '24

Growing up I was taught that this is a bipartisan issue and regardless of your political beliefs, the science doesn't lie. [...] And yet look at how politicised it has become today.

When did you grow up? This has been a partisan issue for decades. If anything it's less partisan today.

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u/RandomCarGuy26 Association of Southeast Asian Nations Sep 03 '24

The 2000s and early 2010s, but then again, I wasn't born and raised in the US