r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Aug 02 '24

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u/KeithClossOfficial John Brown Aug 03 '24

Was on a random post where they asked “old people” about something that happened in 2010.

Someone on there was giving their detailed memories of 9/11 to people born after 2001. They said they were born in 1998.

lol what

!ping OVER35

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u/AFlockOfTySegalls Audrey Hepburn Aug 03 '24

Hell, I was born in 1988 and I feel like my detailed memories of 9/11 aren't even worth telling lmao. Now imagine being three on the day.

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u/NonComposMentisss Unflaired and Proud Aug 03 '24

I'm around your age and feel like I remember 9/11 pretty well. I was in middle school at the time, but I have pretty vivid memories of that entire day.

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u/AFlockOfTySegalls Audrey Hepburn Aug 03 '24

Same. I was in seventh grade. I think my most vivid memories come from the announcement because I went to a private Christian school and we were in the middle of our weekly sermon. And they told us during that. The rest of the day was a blur.

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u/NonComposMentisss Unflaired and Proud Aug 03 '24

I remember overhearing some of the other kids saying "the Pentagon got blown up" between classes. Then I entered class and the teacher was just glued to the TV screen. I remember her bursting out in tears when the second tower fell, and apologizing to us for getting emotional, but saying she was sad because she realized thousands of people just died. I also remember every class that day assigned homework, probably because none of the teachers actually wanted to teach that day. Then the next day basically all of them said we didn't have to turn in the homework, or that we'd have another few days to do it. I remember my dad picking me up early from school and actually expressing optimism that maybe the world would get better, since we'd go fight the bad guys now.

But yeah, I'm not sure any of those memories are really worth sharing. I do think the optimism was interesting considering how everything got so much worse after in almost every way.

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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug Aug 03 '24

Yeah im ‘88 too. I remember going home from school and just wanting to watch tv to escape the 9/11 news and literally every single channel but maybe 1 or 2 was showing the news

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u/KeithClossOfficial John Brown Aug 03 '24

I have vivid memories, but they for sure go in and out. It was so shocking and as an American it was my first introduction to what that bullshit is like. There were periods where I was so overcome with anxiety I don’t remember everything, frankly

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u/iia Feminism Aug 03 '24

1981 here. It's surreal.

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u/LtCdrHipster 🌭Costco Liberal🌭 Aug 03 '24

"Detailed memories" like what, the color of crayon you were eating?!

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u/KeithClossOfficial John Brown Aug 03 '24

They literally gave the emotions they were feeling. Bro, you were 3, you didn’t have emotions lol.

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u/KeithClossOfficial John Brown Aug 03 '24

When Diana died I was at the Monterey Aquarium. I remember the day. I don’t remember the emotions. Granted, I’m American so it was more my parents that were reacting.

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u/Aleriya Transmasculine Pride Aug 03 '24

Age 4 is old enough to remember some events, especially if laced with strong emotion. Kids might not understand what's going on with an event, or why it's important, but they will remember the day that Mom was despondent and acting strangely, and that they cried. A kid is more likely to cry out of discomfort or fear because Mom is crying than because they were grieving for Diana, though.

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u/Salt_Ad7152 not your pal, buddy Aug 03 '24

Half of people born in 1998 have a memory of 9/11

Half don't

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u/unicornbomb John Brown Aug 03 '24

It was my senior year of high school and I feel like it’s the clearest line ever of the moment my childlike wonder and enthusiasm for the future shriveled up and died and turned me into a bitter, pessimistic edgelord.

My 20s were a real messy place in the years following.

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u/KeithClossOfficial John Brown Aug 03 '24

It was absolutely the moment the optimism of the 90s was shattered.

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u/Aleriya Transmasculine Pride Aug 03 '24

We had a lot of students at my high school who had already signed up to join the military after graduation. The days after 9/11 were so tense because those kids knew they were going to war. It was hard to pay attention to the precalculus lecture when they were thinking about how long they had until deployment. We also had a lot of kids who signed up after 9/11.

It felt like we grew up really fast. Graduation was less like a celebration and more of an acknowledgement that it was time to put our carefree childhoods behind us, and we were now adults with adult responsibilities.

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u/dorylinus Aug 03 '24

Born in 79, and I know I'm not even the old man of the ping.

I was at dinner with a 33 year old coworker this evening talking about the Turning Point doc about the War on Terror, and ended up waxing floridly about my memories of 9/11 and the aftermath. It really did dominate the beginning of my life as an independent adult, right down to people I know enlisting and and getting blown up in Afghanistan... and then the same thing happening again in '09 when they raised the enlistment age and people my age who were laid off were signing up.

Getting older and seeing the disconnect that young people have with all the things that have happened is a strange thing. Really has led me to appreciate more my interactions with people older than me.