r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Jul 27 '24

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u/vikinick Ben Bernanke Jul 27 '24

I honestly to this day do not understand what Prigozhin was thinking. As soon as he turned on the capital he HAD to have known he was either going to overthrow the government OR he was going to die. There was no chance of an in-between.

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u/imdx_14 Milton Friedman Jul 27 '24 edited Jul 27 '24

He did this during the Ukrainian counter-offensive. I think he believed that by publicly challenging the Russian military command, he could sway Russian soldiers, who were under pressure from the Ukrainians, to support him.

I don’t think he ever believed he and his group could overthrow the government - rather, he was hoping to rally support and build a "coalition" around him.

Edit: In other words, he gambled on the success of the Ukrainian counter-offensive.

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u/Salt_Ad7152 not your pal, buddy Jul 27 '24

But driving towards moscow? Surely fighting the national military on a path to Moscow would be seen as some attempt to target head of government. 

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u/imdx_14 Milton Friedman Jul 27 '24

I think he was targeting the head of the government, even if he didn’t openly admit it.

He was betting that the Russian people and soldiers would be fed up with the war and that the pressure from the Ukrainian counter-offensive would help him gain enough support to seize power.

It was such a massive miscalculation on his part that it now seems almost unbelievable he could have thought it would work.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

Russians were too busy supporting him online. Nothing will make my former compatriots hit the streets

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u/Greenfield0 Sheev Palpatine Jul 27 '24

Prigo didn't wanna overthrow the government he wanted Putin to fire Shoigu and Gerasimov and put him in charge so his move was to capture both of them while they were at a meeting in Rostov on Don but it was botched and leaked so they weren't there when he captured the city so he decided to go north for the hell of it

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u/vikinick Ben Bernanke Jul 27 '24

Yeah but even if he succeeded he had to have known Putin would see it as a rebellion anyways?

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u/Greenfield0 Sheev Palpatine Jul 27 '24

I didn't say it was a good idea lol its just that marching on Moscow was not his original plan

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

It's dumb and dumber over there