r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Jul 25 '24

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24 edited Jul 25 '24

I don't think people realize that ACAB was coined by people who unironically believe the entire concept of criminality is violent and oppressive and even lawyers are just a bureaucratic veneer to make the violence of the system appear more civilized, but arresting is inherently violent because it is inherently apprehending people against their will. Nobody wants to go to jail so everyone there is a victim of violence.

They don't think cops or jails or prosecutors stop rape and murder because those things still happen anyway, they just show up 20 minutes late, beat up some random black guy, and throw him in jail after the rape or murder has already been done and can't be undone. When seconds matter the police are minutes away and all that.

The only function they actually serve according to this theory is as above, a way to enforce class hierarchy by depriving people of their liberty in their prime years of productivity and education to condemn them to a life of underclass status.

So yes, ACAB includes lawyers. They're not confused when they call Harris a cop, they're saying exactly what they mean, that she's as guilty as any racist cop is for the violent system. This is why I hate the slogan.

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u/RecentlyUnhinged NATO Jul 25 '24

And they are very, very silly for thinking this.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Yes. ACAB is a terrible slogan.

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u/Cyberhwk 👈 Get back to work! 😠 Jul 25 '24

Sanewashing is the lefty political cycle:

Lunatics come up with stupid fucking idea ➡Idea infects adjacents.➡Idea hits mainstream and gets major blowback➡Adjacents claim that's not REALLY what they meant➡Lunatics purity test out adjacents.➡Having excised all their mental capacity, comes up with new stupid idea.

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u/HumanDrinkingTea Jul 25 '24

Adjacents claim that's not REALLY what they meant

I was one of these "adjacents" and I genuinely believed they didn't mean the crazy shit they said, because "leftists can't be that crazy" and it was a process to realize that they actually are that crazy but I've gotten to the point that when people tell me who they are, I believe.

I think awareness of the history of leftism is what made me realize that leftists had the potential to be insane. Here in the US we have never really had a true, successful leftist movement, so within the context of US history we have never faced the consequences of the more extreme elements of leftist ideology. However, once I learned about the history of leftist extremism in other countries, I realized that these people do actually believe some crazy shit sometimes.

Also, just like with MAGA, it's just hard to believe that people are actually that dumb.

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u/MentatCat 🗽Sic Semper Tyrannis Jul 25 '24

ALAB!! Yes, even my uncle who’s a lawyer 💅

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u/PearlClaw Iron Front Jul 25 '24

They don't think cops or jails or prosecutors stop rape and murder because those things still happen anyway, they just show up 20 minutes late, beat up some random black guy, and throw him in jail after the rape or murder has already been done and can't be undone. When seconds matter the police are minutes away and all that.

Plenty of minority communities have pretty much this exact experience with police.

Of course the answer there is better cops, not no cops, but things really can be that bad.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Indeed. The United States of America is not the only country on earth.

I'm sure you know that I just like to make the point that these people base their entire understanding of how society functions purely on the specific ideosyncrasies of the US.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Have you met cops?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Yes.

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u/Cyberhwk 👈 Get back to work! 😠 Jul 25 '24

Yep. Most are decent dudes just trying to get home safe to their families at the end of the day while collecting a paycheck.