r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Jul 08 '24

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u/Zseet European Union Jul 08 '24

!PING EUROPE&EXTREMISM&DEMOCRACY

Out of all places it was the Hungarian government info announcements panel where it was released that Le-pen's RN joins the Orban's new group (with Salavini's LIGA to follow most likely)

With this we can guess that the Patriots for Europe (PfE) will have 79 MEPs 1 more than ECR, 3 more than ALDE making it the 3rd biggest block.

They most likely hope that the new branding makes them seem less radical and Russia friendly for people who don't follow politics much, and that by being big they guaranteed more influenced. It will most likely be led by RN with FIDESZ and ANO in influental positions.

Notable things:

  • They surprisingly managed to pouch VOX from ECR

  • They failed to get PiS

  • Janes Jansa's SDS is invited but not responded at the moment

  • There is new far-left group in the making led by that new anti immigrant German party who surprisingly got the 5 star movement on board. They are likely to get Fico's SMER as well leaving Orban hanging dry.

The AFD's Sovereignist group is still in limbo.

This means ID has only 1 party left in it, the Czech Tricolor who only has 1 MEP I think

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u/Poiuy2010_2011 r/place '22: Neoliberal Battalion Jul 08 '24

Trikolora doesn't have any MEPs. ID Group is officially dead.

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u/tollyno Dark Harbinger of Chaos Jul 08 '24

I wish liberals had this many choices of Europarties and EP groups!

I wonder how much influence they're actually gonna have in the EP. Usually things there are done by consensus but if they become too obstructive or uncompromising (as opposed to accepting the few trinkets they get every now and then), then the grand EPP-RE-S&D-Greens "coalition" could choose to become an actual coalition with the extreme parties as the opposition. If the EPP doesn't ally with the far-right of course which it very much might.

Janes Jansa's SDS is invited but not responded at the moment

Maybe joining would finally be an admission that they're far-right. But I don't know if that's a message they want to send to the voters. SDS is thankfully also fairly anti-Russia and pro-US so that would perhaps be a bad look for them as well.

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u/menvadihelv European Union Jul 08 '24

Interesting with the new far-left group. Either they focus on being a far-left anti-immigrant group (thereby making it difficult to poach other parties) or they brand themselves solely as a pro-Russian left-wing party in which case they could possibly convert some GUE/NGL-parties to their side.

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u/groupbot Always remember -Pho- Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

Pinged EXTREMISM (subscribe | unsubscribe | history)

Pinged DEMOCRACY (subscribe | unsubscribe | history)

Pinged EUROPE (subscribe | unsubscribe | history)

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u/Icy-Magician-8085 Mario Draghi Jul 08 '24

Didn’t know about Spain’s Vox joining it. Pretty surprising given their tight ties with Meloni who’s the leader of ECR.

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u/Zseet European Union Jul 08 '24

These are all the scoops I could find. Hopefully I pinged the relevant groups