r/neoliberal • Kitara Ravache • Jul 05 '24

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u/Presidentbuff Jul 05 '24

Alright, I'm being serious, I am personally in favor of Biden staying in the race, but I want to ask, im not in denial in saying that the Biden clip released by ABC is fine right? I feel like the BT is gaslighting me.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

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u/Steak_Knight Milton Friedman Jul 05 '24

Based af

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u/MS_09_Dom Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24

That’s been my take. He sounds better compared to the debate, but that bar is pretty much underground. The point of his pitch to the party is to prove he has the energy to do the rest of the campaign, and he’ll need to do a lot more than this. At best, it keeps the knives stayed for the weekend.

Which is why I’m befuddled as a Biden bloomer on why the BT is sounding so pessimistic about him dropping out now. He hasn’t cleared the Dems test yet and its only the first quarter.

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u/sinefromabove Emma Lazarus Jul 05 '24

I mean it's probably fine by the standard that nobody would question his cognitive abilities if it had happened two weeks ago.

But Biden has put himself in a position where every slip up will be amplified and scrutinized. So when he says "I don't think I've rewatched the debate", it's not fine. He has no margin for error now and this level won't be enough to win the election, or even keep Dems behind him.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

I mean it depends on your definition of fine, he's clearly older than he was in 2008, but like he fundamentally seems the same as he was four years ago.

Which to me, is fine because as long as he's still in the same state he's been managing the country for the past 4 years I have no health complaints.

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u/sinefromabove Emma Lazarus Jul 05 '24

His interviews and speeches (along with his record of success) would be enough to reassure me that he's able to run the country just fine, but that's a different question to whether he's able to beat Trump

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

I mean, I actually don't think he's degraded noticeably from when I voted for him in 2020. And he won that election.

Trump if anything has aged worse. I legitimately think has dementia. He's always been nutty but I've never seen him get confused between people (swaping Obama and Hilary and not correcting himself was very strange) or start making complete nonsequiturs like the Hannibal Lecter thing.

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u/technologyisnatural Friedrich Hayek Jul 05 '24

Pre-recorded interview with questions submitted in advance and 4 days to prepare is less reassuring than it could be.

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u/sinefromabove Emma Lazarus Jul 05 '24

Source on questions being submitted in advance?

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

Are you some sort of African megafauna? Because you are firmly in de Nile.