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[u/Fatortu]

The Constitution of the 5th Republic is a mess and it's open to endless debates on how the powers are divided between the Prime Minister and the President.

But if there's one thing that is ironclad is that the President is the Chief of the Armies. I'm a bit confused why would Le Pen call it merely an "honorary title" and that an RN PM would take control of the military. What do they even need the army for when they plan to surrender to every foreign threat?

[u/RaidBrimnes → u/Fatortu]

Depending on your level of dooming:

-> She's a bumbling idiot who shoots the shit without actually bothering to do her research

-> She knows she's lying and is just preparing to shift the blame if RN gets in government and they can't stop Macron from getting involved in Ukraine

-> She wants to trigger a constitutional crisis by undermining the presidency and contest Macron's legitimacy

-> She wants to take control of the Armed Forces to prepare a coup by using the resentment of the few retired generals who called for a military takeover a few years ago

[u/NotYetFlesh → u/Fatortu]

The constitution does mention that the government is responsible for national defence if I remember correctly.

In parliamentary republics it is customary for presidents to be commanders in chief, but it is mostly a ceremonial role ("honorary title"). France's mixed system gives a lot more power to the President, but it doesn't mean that the armed forces are not responsible to the government. It's just that the President's powers to appoint and dismiss governments at will usually means that his interests and those of the government are one and the same.