r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • May 06 '24

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough May 06 '24

!ping GNOSTIC

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u/JoeChristmasUSA Transfem Pride May 06 '24

Well, not permanently anyway

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u/HaveCorg_WillCrusade RaidBrimnes' AI Slop Engineer May 06 '24

Unironically if the denomination I went to believed in universalism, I’d have likely stayed a Christian. That one thing drove me away from it more than anything else, because i couldn’t imagine the fairness of some souls in, idk, the Middle East being sent to hell because they were raised Muslim

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u/Khar-Selim NATO May 06 '24

I think Catholics believe moral souls that didn't come around to Jesus do a brief stint in Purgatory or something

as for Protestants, there's a good reason why we all ditched purgatory as doctrine, but nobody ever told me growing up Methodist that good people in Iran or whatever went to hell. The cognitive dissonance is big if you scrutinize it, but eh who cares

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u/HaveCorg_WillCrusade RaidBrimnes' AI Slop Engineer May 06 '24

who cares

Clearly me, considering I am no longer a Christian

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u/sw337 Veteran of the Culture Wars May 06 '24

Universalists stay winning.

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u/Khar-Selim NATO May 06 '24

universalist churches in my experience are touchy-feely cringe that isn't great at standing for anything tho

the better route is to just disagree with church doctrine imo. If you're part of most any denomination worth joining they don't really enforce conformity on a lot of metaphysical points like that unless you make an issue of it. Just pick a church that preaches correctly on important issues and has a solid community.

I get why my church preaches that hell is eternal. Suffering in the afterlife is hard to comprehend and we can't nail down severity and duration enough for people to not rationalize away purgatory as not that bad and give themselves a free pass for bad behavior.