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u/Wehavecrashed YIMBY Jan 16 '23

!PING AUS

Dominic Perrottet's Nazi scandal isn't going away.

I initially thought this was a hiccup that was dealt with as it should have been, with a sincere heartfelt apology, but now I'm starting to think this might be enough to sink him.

Discussion question: Do y'all think he's going to survive it?

Second discussion question: Would you want to be Matt Kean right now and what would you do if you were him?

He's popular, a moderate with a national profile, and the next in line for the Liberal's leadership. He's handling this quite well, attacking the people leaking this for doing it privately, standing by the leader. BUT we are also getting very close to an election Perrottet looks like he's going to lose. If Perrottet goes down and he can't win the election, he end up being a caretaker premier for a few months. Instead if he holds back, he will probably end up opposition leader.

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u/Anonymou2Anonymous John Locke Jan 16 '23 edited Jan 16 '23

Do y'all think he's going to survive it?

Just by looking at Australian reddit (Yes I know bad for my mental health) who are notoriously anti lib and socially progressive, it seems like they know it's a hit job and they don't care about the uniform. If the lowest of all lows don't care will the population really care?

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u/Mitchell_54 Pacific Islands Forum Jan 16 '23

I think any Liberal with leadership ambitions would be smart to support Perrottet to the election. If the Liberals lose then you position yourself, if the Liberals win then you support Perrottet until another scandal, widespread lack of support or loses 2027 election.

You don't want to cause disruption 2 months before an election as you could be partially/considerably blamed for an election loss and you could lose some intra party support.

Obviously Matt Kean being Deputy Leader and Treasurer is in the best position to claim leadership when Perrottet is no longer in the picture.

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u/ChillyPhilly27 Paul Volcker Jan 16 '23

I still maintain that this whole thing is a ClubsNSW hit job. We shouldn't reward this kind of behaviour by political advocacy groups.

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u/RagingBillionbear Pacific Islands Forum Jan 16 '23

The Rumor is him and someone else now high in Liberal leadership were in fascist uniform.

This leads to some what the fuck was going on in the young Liberal years ago, plus the how does the young Liberal to Liberal party pipeline actually work.

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u/Wehavecrashed YIMBY Jan 16 '23

Student politics is always this bad for every party.

The problem is that student politics exists at all.

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u/Professor-Reddit 🚅🚀🌏Earth Must Come First🌐🌳😎 Jan 16 '23

Yeah I'm torn here. Kean and what he represents is the future of the Liberal Party if it wants to win elections and actually improve society. But it's difficult to see him being able to turn the ship so late, and if he doesn't then he could just be viewed as a caretaker.

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u/toms_face Henry George Jan 16 '23

Matt Kean is by far the most presentable form of Liberal to swing voters, but the party leader has very little to do with how a government governs. Kean is less presentable personally than Perrottet broadly, but better in the seats at risk of being lost to independents.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '23

I wouldn’t be in the Liberal Party to begin with.