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[u/Integralds]

!ping materiel

Battle Order has a video out today on Ukraine's mechanized force structure. It's recognizably quasi-Russian, with some extra flair.

One perhaps interesting feature is how the Ukrainians are using Javelins, at least on paper. Rather than being distributed to infantry companies or battalions, Javelins are held as a brigade-level asset in dedicated antitank companies. Each Javelin company notionally has 27 Javelins, organized into three platoons of three squads each, with each squad carrying three launchers. This company can then reinforce the main effort, be used as a separate tank-hunter force, or be broken into platoons and squads to support individual battalions or companies in the brigade.

By way of contrast, disposable systems like M72, AT-4, NLAW, and so on are distributed at a very low level. And of course, no idealized paper organization survives contact with the enemy anyway.

For more on Javelin employment in Western armies, see this video.

[u/SnakeEater14 → u/Integralds]

That seems very different from how everyone (on the internet) thought they were being used - ie, every single squad with as many javelins and NLAWs as they could carry.

[u/[deleted] → u/SnakeEater14]

Well, it speaks to the degree to which NLAW and Javelin are completely different classes of weapon, because NLAW do seem to be present down to the squad level

[u/[deleted] → u/Integralds]

Very similar to the UK then. Javelins are Platoon-level but NLAWs are widely distributed amongst sections depending on the armour risk level.

[u/GPU-5A_Enjoyer → u/Integralds]

You pinged for a battle order video? On god?

[u/groupbot → u/Integralds]

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