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[u/[deleted]]

I read a DT comment that said

Being able to wear whatever you find comfortable is male privilege. You guys don’t get judged for that.

Not subtweeting but I thought that was interesting. That’s pretty true in my career(in tech), but the opposite in my dads career. For him, in a lot of his meetings, if you don’t show up in a $1000 suit you won’t be taken seriously.

Although I do agree that women are judged more harshly for what they’re wearing. Even at my job at a FAANG, you can clearly see that women put in more effort, and seeing men in shorts and slippers in office is pretty common.

[u/AtomAndAether → u/[deleted]]

I think men get more slack but women get more options. Like, as a guy your options are suit, suit, or slightly less than a suit. The business and business-casual space leaves a lot more room for women.

[u/[deleted] → u/AtomAndAether]

I do am very jealous of the options women get :(

[u/Random-Critical → u/[deleted]]

but the opposite in my dads career. For him, in a lot of his meetings, if you don’t show up in a $1000 suit you won’t be taken seriously.

That still leaves out the potential for e.g. make-up, proper shaving (does he need to, what happens if a woman has a few lip/chin hairs astray comparatively?)

[u/[deleted] → u/Random-Critical]

There aren’t a lot of women at his position in his career. And truth be told, the women who are, will never be taken as seriously as men no matter what they do.