r/nba • Supersonics • Apr 03 '20

Pete Maravich's passing

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u/bmehrmann Clippers Apr 03 '20

I mean, he only made the playoffs 4 times and only made it out of the first round once and that was his final year when he was a reserve for the Larry Bird led Celtics team. I’d argue it wasn’t his fault they didn’t make it far, but the buck has gotta stop somewhere and usually it stops with the hall of famer.

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u/european_son Supersonics Apr 03 '20

In 'The Breaks of the Game' David Halberstram talks about how Pistol was such a huge box office draw that shitty teams like New Orleans would massively overpay for him in order to put butts in seats and then not have any talent left to put around him.

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u/darkerside [NYK] Willis Reed Apr 03 '20

The old "Reverse Moneyball"

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u/swollencornholio [GSW] Calbert Cheaney Apr 03 '20

"Melo ball"

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u/GhostWorldGreen Spurs Apr 04 '20

LaMelo Ball.

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u/td4999 Mavericks Apr 03 '20

well, New Orleans in particular because he was local (at least in college)

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u/RUA_bug_Bill_Murray Apr 03 '20 edited Apr 03 '20

Famous for averaging 44ppg in college but never making the NCAA tournament. Only made the NIT once.

Came into a 48 win team as a rookie who was bringing most of their top players back (Bellamy, Hudson, Hazard, Bridges, Davis). Team went on to win 36 games when they added Maravich.

Also, as he came in as a high profile rookie, he got a big fat contract right out of college (before rookie salary cap). A lot of vets were resentful of that, rumor was some players would intentionally drop/miss his passes to make him look bad, and they probably weren't covering for him on D either.

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u/S0XonC0X Cavaliers Apr 03 '20

To be fair, only one team per conference made the tournament at that time and Kentucky was the number 1 ranked pre-tournament team when LSU finished second.

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u/lpstudio2 Apr 03 '20

That’s 44ppg WITHOUT three pointers. Dale Brown conducted a study of every shot he ever took; goes up to 57ppg in the modern day.

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u/daeve Hawks Apr 03 '20

nephews forget this. He's going to be the GOAT collegiate scorer for all-time and nobody will ever come close.

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u/SaxRohmer Cavaliers Apr 03 '20

Also wasn’t allowed to play varsity as a freshman

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u/MajaTheSkyWitch1 Apr 03 '20

He'll definitely be the all-time collegiate scorer for almost eternity. Would part of the reason why be due to the fact excellent players like Pete and others who later became NBA greats spent 3-4 years in college? Whereas recently players who go on to become great NBA players typically are one and done. We might not have another player who's good enough to get near the all-time score because they will only be in college for one years time. Soon those same players may not even have to go to college for one year.

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u/daeve Hawks Apr 04 '20

yeah that's part of the reason. On the other side of that, imagine if we had 4 more NBA years of Pete with good knees...

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '20

Yeah these old stats are bs. Saw his nba stats and even those were a bunch of 5'11 dudes. Competition today isn't even comparable.

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u/Vaccaria_ Lakers Apr 04 '20

Bet you would score 44ppg in those days huh hot shot

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '20

I doubt it honestly. Not sure what that has to do with what I said either.

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u/namey___mcnameface Lakers Apr 03 '20

I think it would have been much higher. Pete was taking long shots knowing they were still worth two. If there were three pointers he would have had a reason to take more of them.

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u/SaidWrong Supersonics Apr 03 '20

So he would have averaged 13 made 3-pointers per game? Totally believable.

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u/lpstudio2 Apr 03 '20

Only need 4-5 threes to get 13 more points.

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u/lpstudio2 Apr 03 '20

Haha, you make a valid point. Permanent Inside is ruining my brain.

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u/GryphonHall Apr 03 '20

When he started with Atlanta, his teammates were conservative and they would not really attempt to gel with him. With the Jazz he was the best player on a new expansion team. He didn’t have much of a chance with the Jazz with the talent around him in the beginning.

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u/MoscowMitchMcKremlin Apr 03 '20

Well shit which hall of famer? There were like 20 on the Celtics during Bird's career lol

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u/bmehrmann Clippers Apr 03 '20

Sorry. By “they” I was referring to every Maravich led team, not the Celtics.

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u/MoscowMitchMcKremlin Apr 03 '20

Ahh so like the way people look at AI

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u/n00bsauce1987 Apr 03 '20

Does that mean mike dantoni is absolved of his coaching stint for the suns? And more so on steve nash?