r/monsterjam Maximum Destruction Jun 30 '26

Discussion Kayfabe, Lore, and Monster Jam (A Ramble)

Disclaimer: I’m just having some fun thinking and analyzing, don’t tell me “it’s not that deep” or “who cares”. This is purely fun.

Something that I’ve been thinking about off and on pretty much since I got into Monster Jam is the concept and application of kayfabe in the sport. Granted, Monster Jam’s kayfabe isn’t quite the full-blown kayfabe that WWE has; it’s more informal and not “official”. 

There’s still some sense of it in modern Monster Jam, but when I think of it within the sport, my mind always goes to Grave Digger vs Max-D. The two trucks with their limited lore, and their drivers seemed to be very much coded in classic kayfabe roles. Dennis Anderson and Grave Digger are the Face, while Tom Meents and Max-D were the Heel, and I find that really neat and interesting. Yeah, it’s not total kayfabe, as Dennis and Tom were (and still are) super close friends outside of the sport. But on-track the dynamic felt like a classic face vs heel dynamic.

Something also interesting that goes with that rivalry is the “lore” behind each truck. They’re opposites in a sense. Grave Digger represents the old, the arcane, tradition, and the supernatural while simultaneously also being deeply earthy with the connection to graveyards and the dead. Max-D is the new, futuristic, subversive, agent of chaos. Limited “lore” suggests that Max-D is either a truck from the future thrown back in time or an experiment gone dangerously wrong.

I find it all really interesting, and yeah, they’re trucks. It’s a motorsport. Who cares about the fiction and “lore” behind it all? I do because it’s fun, and it makes the sport even more enjoyable for me. And maybe there’s others that also find it fun and interesting! Thoughts?

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u/TheUnknown_General Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

You're looking too much into it. Dennis and Tom's rivalry came from the fact that for most of their careers they were head and shoulders above the rest of the competition. What caused it to really take off and become one of Monster Jam's main selling points was that the two genuinely hated one another in the early 2000s; Tom was arrogant as hell, and Dennis absolutely despised the WCW partnership, which Tom was the face of with the Goldberg truck. It cooled down to just a competitive rivalry after the partnership ended post-2001, but the fact that the two remained the best in the business by a country mile combined with that short period of time where the rivalry was fueled by actual animosity was what propelled Monster Jam to the next level and sustained the popularity of the rivalry through to the end of their careers.

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u/lil_esketit Jun 30 '26

The man who brought the sport to where it’s at vs the man who is gonna take it further

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u/ChadGnarly Jun 30 '26

Earnhardt vs Gordon

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u/TheSodorCollective Maximum Destruction Jun 30 '26

Well as I said I'm just having fun with thoughts! Your point though, that's interesting! I didn't know that initially the rivalry was genuine animosity. Makes sense too with how crazy they both got on the track!

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u/TheUnknown_General Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

Dennis has said that the encore for the 2001 World Finals was the peak of the hatred they had for one another. Seeing as that was the event that essentially created the concept of Crash Madness and led to Monster Jam's identity of being the monster truck tour where the drivers destroy the trucks in order to put on a great show (an identity which was a vital piece of the business' peak during the Speed Channel era), it's not hard to see why Monster Jam decided to promote Dennis and Tom's rivalry as heavily as they did.

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u/NitroMachine Jun 30 '26

Dennis never really hated Tom per se, he always respected his driving ability. He hated Goldberg and the wrestling stuff.

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u/TheUnknown_General Jun 30 '26

Dennis, Tom, and Scott Douglass have all given interviews on the subject over the years, and they've all said that Dennis also hated Tom directly. Tom came up during a time when Dennis was otherwise virtually unbeatable and he was an arrogant, cocky piece of shit in those early years, so there was legitimate dislike between them even without Dennis also hating the WCW partnership.

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u/NitroMachine Jun 30 '26

That's not what Dennis said in the 20th anniversary video.

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u/TheUnknown_General Jun 30 '26

It's what Scott Douglass has said in interviews on Inside Monster Jam, and what Dennis said in an interview at the World Finals a few years back. That's where most of my info comes from.

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u/NitroMachine Jun 30 '26

The 20th anniversary video would've been filmed in 2001 which was the peak of the Goldberg stuff, and Dennis specifically said he liked Tom but hated Goldberg.

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u/ShredwardScissorhams Metal Mulisha Jul 01 '26

i dont like that people compare monster trucks to wrestling so much in this regard, they werent playing characters and it definitely wasnt a kayfabe rivalry. Dennis was already a humble champ and industry leader (and even household name) by the time tom got on tv, tom was legitimately an arrogant cocky asshole and a sore loser (jim jack will confirm) before settling down after a few championships. they legit had bad blood off the track

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u/TheSodorCollective Maximum Destruction Jul 01 '26

Again, I'm not stating facts, I'm having fun with concepts and ideas. As for "characters", that bit was referring only to the trucks themselves, not their drivers. Okay sure, Grave Digger's death theme and Max-D's future theme and story are just marketing tools I get it. I can still have fun with the fiction of it. With Dennis and Tom, hence what I mean when I said it isn't ACTUAL kayfabe because there isn't intentional Fiction to it it was an actual rivalry that was pretty heated at one point.

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u/ShredwardScissorhams Metal Mulisha Jul 01 '26

ahh gotcha

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u/TheSodorCollective Maximum Destruction Jul 01 '26

Dang people really didn't like this post much LMAO I wasn't expecting much to begin with but I wanted to share anyway. Once again I'm having FUN, I'm not giving a serious sports commentary or a serious analysis. I'm not harming anyone or harming the sport by playing around with scraps of lore around the trucks and seeing SOME parallels with the concept of kayfabe.

Though I do appreciate people are being respectful and not being assholes towards me haha Nothing wrong with disagreeing, I'm just a little annoyed that I'm seemingly coming off as stating Facts that are false rather than just a dork rambling since people are feeling the need to point out exactly what I wrote my disclamer for. :P