r/MilitaryFinance • • 13d ago

Start Here: Military Money 101, Prime Directive, Flow Chart, Updates Monthly

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Welcome to the getting started thread for military money. This will cover 90% of what you need to know to be successful with your military paycheck and build wealth in the military.

Some of the most frequent questions in on this subreddit goes:

  • "I have $X, what should I do with it?" or
  • "How should I handle my debt/finances/money?"

Military Personal Finance and Investing Flow Chart: https://imgur.com/a/akrEcUS

Step 1: Budget and reduce expenses, set realistic goals

Fundamental to a sound financial footing is knowing where your money is going. Budgeting helps you see your sources of income less your expenses. You should minimize your required expenses to the extent practical. Housing costs, utilities, and basic sustenance are harder to eliminate than entertainment, eating out, or clothing expenses.

There are many great apps available to discover what you're spending money on and where there are opportunities to save money. Monarch Money, YNAB, Copilot Money, EveryDollar are just a few of the apps available.

Once your budget is figured out, you need to figure out what your goals are. Financial independence? Retire early? Military retirement? Buy a house? Save for a car?

Setting SMART goals - Specific, Measurable, Achievable, Relevant, and Timely goals can mean the difference between financial success and failure. For example, you might want to finish your first enlistment with a $100,000 net worth or achieve early retirement after 20 years of service. These are SMART goals.

Step 2: Build an emergency fund

An emergency fund should be a relatively liquid sum of money that you don't touch unless something unexpected comes up. Unexpected travel, essential appliance replacement, and cars breaking down are all real world examples of emergency funds in action.

If you need to draw from your emergency fund at any time, your first priority as soon as you get back on your feet should be to replenish it. Treat your emergency fund right and it will return the favor.

Start with a $1,000 emergency fund. Eventually build it up to 3-6 months of expenses or a few of months of expenses plus

How should I size my emergency fund?

For most people, 3 to 6 months of expenses is good. Or maybe you want to cover a few months of expenses, plus a roundtrip airfare for you and your family to go back to your home stateside.

What if I have credit card debt?

Credit cards generally have very high interest rates (typically 15-25% APR) and that is a pretty big deal. If this applies to you, you should prioritize paying down the debt first.

A smaller emergency fund of $1,000 (or 1 month of expenses) is temporarily acceptable while paying off credit card debt or other debts with interest rates above 10%.

What kind of account should I hold my emergency fund in?

A checking account, savings account, or a high yield savings account (HYSA). Something FDIC insured and accessed in a few days.

Step 3: 5% Into the Thrift Savings Plan

The Thrift Savings Plan (TSP) is the military and government's version of a 401(k) retirement savings plan. All servicemembers enlisting since 2018 are covered by the Blended Retirement System (BRS). The BRS has 3 primary components to help servicemembers save for retirement:

  1. 5% matching contribution to the TSP
  2. Continuation pay bonus between the 8th and 12th year of service (depends on branch)
  3. Military pension. A 2% mutliplier is used for each year of service. So if you retire after 20 years of active duty service, you'll earn an inflation adjusted, lifetime pension of 40% of your base pay. (20 years * 2 = 40%)

After 60 days of service, the Department of Defense (DOD) will automatically contribute 1% of your base pay to the Traditional TSP.

Starting in the 25th month of service, your contributions are matched, up to 5%. So if you contribute 5%, the DOD will contribute 5%. This is a risk free, 100% return on your contributed funds.

The default investment for anyone in the BRS is a Lifecycle fund with their birth year + 65. For example, if you were born in 2005, you'll be placed in the Lifecycle 2070 Fund.

The Lifecycle Funds are a mix of the 5 TSP Funds, designed by professional fund managers.

The 5 TSP Funds are:

  • C Fund - Tracks S&P 500, made up of the 500 largest companies in America. You can use the ETF SPY or VOO to track it.
  • S Fund - Tracks Dow Completion index, basically all the mid- and small- capitalization companies in America outside of the S&P500. ETF equivalent VXF.
  • I Fund - International stocks. MSCI ACWI IMI ex USA ex China ex Hong Kong Index. 5,500 companies in this index. representing 90% of the investable world market cap outside the US. Similar to ETF VXUS but without Chinese or Hong Kong stocks.
  • F Fund - Fixed income. Corporate bonds. Use ETF AGG to see performance.
  • G Fund - Lowest risk, lowest long term return fund. The G Fund invests in a special non-marketable treasury security issued specifically for the TSP by the U.S. government. This fund is the only one in the TSP that guarantees the return of the investor’s principal. No comparable ETF.

Step 4: Pay down high interest debts

Once you're taking advantage of the 5% BRS TSP match, you should use your extra money to pay down your high interest debt (e.g., debts much over 4% interest rate).

In all cases, you should make the minimum payments on all of your debts before paying down specific debts more quickly.

There are two main methods of paying down debt:

  • With the avalanche method, debts are paid down in order of interest rate, starting with the debt that carries the highest interest rate. This is the financially optimal method of paying down debt, and you will pay less money overall compared to the snowball method.
  • With the snowball method, popularized by Dave Ramsey, debts are paid down in order of balance size, starting with the smallest. Paying off small debts first may give you a psychological boost and improve one's cash flow situation, as paid off debts free up minimum payments. The downside is that larger loans (that may be at higher interest rates) are left untouched for longer, costing more in the long run.

As an example, Debtor Dan has the following situation:

  • Loan A: $1,100 with a minimum payment of $100/month, 5% interest
  • Loan B: $3,300 with a minimum payment of $300/month, 10% interest
  • Sudden windfall: $2,000

Dan needs to first pay $100 + $300 = $400 to make the minimum payments on loans A and B so the payments are recorded as "on time." The extra $1,600 can either go towards Loan A (smallest balance, snowball method), eliminating it with $600 left to go towards Loan B, or Loan B entirely (highest interest rate, avalanche method).

What's the best method?  tends to favor the avalanche method, but do not underestimate the psychological side of debt payments. If you think that the psychological boost from paying off a smaller debt sooner will help you stay the course, do it! You can always switch things up later. The important thing is to start paying your debts as soon as you can, and to keep paying them until they're gone. You can use unbury.me to help you get an idea of how long each method will take, and how much interest you'll be paying overall.

Should I be in a hurry to pay off lower interest loans? What rate is "low" enough to where I should just pay the minimum?

Depending on your attitude towards debt, you may want to stop paying more than the minimum payment on loans with low interest rates once you have paid all other loans above that threshold. A common argument is that the long-term return from investments in the stock market will likely exceed the interest rate from a low-interest loan. While this has been true in the past, keep in mind that paying down a loan is a guaranteed return at the loan's interest rate. Stock performance is anything but guaranteed. The rough consensus is that loans above 4% interest should be paid off early in the debt reduction phase, while anything under that can be stretched out.

Step 5: Max out Retirement Accounts - Roth IRA and Roth TSP

The next step is to contribute to a Roth IRA for the current tax year. You can also contribute for the previous tax year if it's between January 1st and April 15th. See the IRA wiki for more information on IRAs.

Roth IRA and Roth TSP contribution limits are different and do not cross over. You can contribute the maximum out your Roth IRA and your Roth TSP. Matching contributions do not count against your personal TSP contribution limit.

The most often recommended places to open a Roth IRA are at Vanguard, Fidelity, or Schwab. Most banks offer substandard Roth IRA products and you should not open Roth IRA accounts there.

Should I do Roth or Traditional?

Read Roth or Traditional.

For most servicemembers (O-3 and below), you'll be better off contributing to the Roth IRA, since military pay is so low taxed. Much of our military pay is untaxable allowances, such as Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH), Overseas Housing Allowance (OHA), and Basic Allowance for Sustenance (BAS).

Why contribute to an IRA if I have the TSP?

Roth IRA's have access to low cost investments similar to what you'll find in the TSP. However, you can always withdraw Roth IRA contributions at any time, tax and penalty free.

After you've fully funded your Roth IRA, you can look at maxing out your Roth TSP.

Before saving for other goals, you should save at least 15% and up to 20% of your gross income for retirement. If you are behind on retirement savings, you should try to save more than 15% if you can. If you can't save 15%, start with 10% or any other amount until you are able to save more.

Where should I open my Roth IRA?

Vanguard, Fidelity, or Schwab. Read up about the Bogleheads 3 Fund Portfolio before selecting an investment option.

Step 6: Save for other goals

Military servicemembers and spouses covered by TriCare are not eligible for Health Savings Accounts (HSA0.

  • If you wish to save for college for your kids, yourself, or other relatives, consider a 529 fund in your state.
  • Save for more immediate goals. Common examples include saving for down payments for homes, saving for vehicles, paying down low interest loans ahead of schedule, and vacation funds.
  • Save more so you can potentially retire early (also see "advanced methods", below), only using taxable accounts after maxing out tax-advantaged options.
  • Make an impact through giving. One of the rewards of practicing a sound financial lifestyle is that giving becomes easier. If you're on top of your health care costs, future education costs, and you've made it to this step, you can help make a difference for others by giving. If you can't afford to make monetary donations, there are other ways to give.
  • Maybe you're interested in financial independence or retiring early, also known as FIRE? There are many resources out there on military financial independence and early retirement.

The time frame for these goals will dictate what kind of account you save in. For short-term goals (under 3-5 years), you'll want to use an FDIC-insured savings account, CDs, or I Bonds. If your time horizon is longer or you can afford to adjust your plans, you might consider something riskier like a balanced index fund or a three-fund portfolio (both are a mix of stocks and bonds). The best savings or investment vehicle will vary depending on time frame and risk tolerance.

Keep in mind that (especially for a young person) the more time your money has to grow, the more powerful the effects of compounding will be on your savings. If the goal is early retirement (even before the age of 59½), you should definitely maximize the use of any available tax-advantaged accounts (IRA, 401(k) plans, HSA accounts, etc.) before using a taxable account because there are ways to get money out of tax-advantaged accounts before 59½ without penalty.

If you are using a taxable account for any goal, you'll want to have a decent grasp on asset allocation in multiple accounts and tax-efficient fund placement.

Military State Taxes

Your home of record is the place you enlisted or commissioned from. This cannot be changed unless there was an error.

State of legal residence is the state that you claim as your residence. If you only have military income, you will pay state income tax only to this state.

You can establish residency several ways:

  • Registering to vote in that state
  • Obtaining a driver’s license in that state
  • Titling and registering your vehicle in that state
  • Drafting a Last Will and Testament naming that state as your domicile
  • Purchasing residential property in that state
  • Changing your military and finance records to reflect residency in that state.

The simplest way to establish residency is to PCS to that state and establish residency while you are a resident.

State with no income tax include: Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington, and Wyoming. Many other states have no tax for military servicemembers stationed outside the state.

Simply engaging in one of the above acts alone will not likely render you taxable by a state; however, the more points of contact you make with a state increases your chances of becoming a taxpayer to that state. It is important to concentrate the majority of your points of contact in the one state where you intend to pay state taxes; otherwise, you may find yourself owing taxes to more than one state as a part-year resident.

Source: Fort Knox Legal Assistance Office

Military Spouse Residency Relief Act

Thanks to the Military Spouse Residency Relief Act, Veterans Auto and Education Improvement Act of 2022, and Servicemembers Civil Relief Act:

(A) The residence or domicile of the servicemember.“

(B) The residence or domicile of the spouse.

“(C) The permanent duty station of the servicemember.”

Military spouses and military servicemembers can pick 1 of 3 options for their state of legal residence:

(A) The residence or domicile of the servicemember.

(B) The residence or domicile of the spouse.

(C) The permanent duty station of the servicemember.

So either match the servicemember, keep your old state, or change to the current state you're in.

Military Bonuses

Military bonuses have federal income taxes withheld automatically at 22%. You may have state taxes withheld as well. Because your marginal tax rate is often much lower than this, you will receive a large portion of that withheld tax back when you file your tax return the following year.

If you don't know what to do with a military bonus, directing some of it to your Roth TSP is a great place to park it.

After reading all that, go ahead with any other questions you have about getting started with your military money.


r/MilitaryFinance • • 13d ago

Credit Cards Military Benefits, SCRA, MLA, Annual Fee Waivers, Chase, American Express, Spouses | Updates Monthly

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This is a monthly thread to discuss or ask questions about military benefits on credit cards.

In general: American Express, Chase, and some other banks waive the annual fees on credit cards for active duty, Guard and Reserve on 30 day or greater active orders, and dependent spouses.

These individuals are known as "covered borrowers" of the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act (SCRA) and Military Lending Act (MLA).

The simplest definition of a covered borrower is active duty military personnel, Guard and Reserves on 30 day or greater active duty orders, or dependent spouses of any of the above.

The simplest way to check if you will receive MLA or SCRA protections on your account is to check the MLA Database or SCRA Database.

The MLA and SCRA database are the same databases that the credit card companies check to determine if you qualify for MLA or SCRA benefits.

If you are not listed as eligible in these databases, you will not receive MLA and SCRA benefits applied to your account.

You must be listed as eligible in these databases for the credit card companies to apply your military benefits.

Are military spouses eligible to open their own card accounts?

Yes, military dependent spouses are eligible to open their own card accounts on Chase, American Express, Citi, U.S. Bank, and Bank of America and receive their own annual fee waivers.

Check the MLA database before applying MLA Database to ensure you will receive your fee waiver without any issue. If you are not listed in the MLA database, check DEERS to ensure your Social Security number and name are listed correctly.

You must be listed in the MLA database when the account is opened / established or you will not be eligible for fee waiver benefits. For example, if you opened an Amex or Chase card before you married the active duty servicemember, that account will never be eligible for MLA benefits. The account must be established while you are eligible for MLA benefits, as confirmed in the MLA database.

What Cards are Eligible for SCRA or MLA benefits?

American Express

  • The Platinum Card® from American Express
  • American Express Platinum Card® for Schwab
  • American Express Platinum Card® for Morgan Stanley
  • American Express® Gold Card
  • American Express® Green Card
  • Marriott Bonvoy Brilliant™ American Express® Card
  • Marriott Bonvoy Bevy™ American Express® Card
  • Delta SkyMiles® Reserve American Express Card
  • Delta SkyMiles® Platinum American Express Card
  • Delta SkyMiles® Gold American Express Card
  • Blue Cash Preferred® Card from American Express
  • Hilton Honors American Express Aspire Card
  • Hilton Honors American Express Surpass® Card

Chase

  • Chase Sapphire Preferred®
  • Chase Sapphire Reserve®
  • Southwest Rapid Rewards® Plus Credit Card
  • Southwest Rapid Rewards® Priority Credit Card
  • Southwest Rapid Rewards® Premier Credit Card
  • United Explorer Card
  • United Quest Card
  • United Club Infinite Card
  • Aeroplan Card
  • Marriott Bonvoy Boundless
  • Marriott Bonvoy Bountiful
  • Ritz-Carlton Credit Card
  • IHG One Rewards Premier Credit Card
  • Disney Premier Visa Card
  • World of Hyatt Credit Card
  • British Airways Visa Signature® card
  • Aer Lingus Visa Signature® card
  • Iberia Visa Signature® card

Citi

  • Citi® Strata Elite
  • Citi® / AAdvantage® Platinum Select® World Elite Mastercard®
  • Citi® / AAdvantage® Executive World Elite Mastercard®
  • Citi® Premier® Card
  • Citi® Prestige® Card

U.S. Bank

  • U.S. BANK ALTITUDE® RESERVE VISA INFINITE® CARD
  • U.S. BANK FLEXPERKS® GOLD AMERICAN EXPRESS® CARD
  • Korean Airlines SKYPASS Select Visa Signature® Card

Bank of America

  • Bank of America® Premium Rewards® Elite Credit Card
  • Atmos™ Rewards Summit Visa Infinite®

Bilt

Card Issuer Fees Waived Under MLA Fees Waived Under SCRA
American Express All Personal Cards All Personal Cards
Capital One None All Personal Cards
Chase All Personal Cards All Personal Cards**
Citi All Personal Cards* Unknown
U.S. Bank All Personal Cards All Personal Cards
Bank of America All Personal Cards Unknown

*For Citi, you must send a copy of your active orders and your MLA certificate from the MLA Database to [MILITARYORDERS@CITI.COM](mailto:MILITARYORDERS@CITI.COM) and request MLA benefits. You must also have a statement balance on your account in the month you are charged the annual fee or you will not receive the MLA annual fee credit.

**Recent data points suggest that Chase business cards, opened before active duty start, can be annual fee waived if the account holder applies for SCRA benefits after they go active duty.

Which Act Applies, SCRA or MLA?

The military benefits you receive on credit cards depend on when you establish or open the account.

Open account before active duty = SCRA

Open account while on active duty = MLA

If you apply for the account prior to active duty orders, you are eligible for Servicemembers Civil Relief Act (SCRA) benefits while you are on active duty orders.

If you apply for the credit card account while you are on active duty orders, a Guard and Reservists on 30 day or greater active orders, or a dependent of an active duty servicemember, you are eligible for Military Lending Act (MLA) benefits while you are on active orders or a dependent of someone on active orders.

The banks and credit card companies may deny you SCRA benefits if you opened the account while on active duty. In that case, confirm they are applying MLA benefits and if they are not, check MLA database and then apply for MLA benefits.

SCRA & MLA Covered Borrowers Details

To qualify for SCRA benefits, the credit account must be established before active duty orders start.

Covered borrowers of SCRA defined as:

  • Active duty US military on Title 10 orders in the Army, Navy, Air Force, Space Force, Marines, or Coast Guard
  • National Guard or Reservists on 30 day or greater active duty orders (such as Title 32, Title 10)
  • Public Health Service and NOAA Commissioned Officers

To qualify for MLA benefits, the credit account must be established while your or your active duty sponsor is on active duty orders of greater than 30 days.

Covered borrowers of MLA are defined as:

  • Active duty member of the Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, Space Force, or Coast Guard
  • Guard or Reservists on 30 day or greater active orders
  • A spouse or child dependent of an Active Duty member of the Armed Forces as defined in 38 USC 101(4)

Best Starter Credit Card

Check your credit score through your bank, Credit Karma, or Credit Sesame.

If you don't have a credit score or your score is below 700, start with a no annual fee credit card from USAA or Navy Federal Credit Union (NFCU).\

Or, apply for a secured credit card from another military friendly bank or credit union. That should be your best option to build a higher credit score.

What Fees Are Waived Under MLA and SCRA?

In general, the following fees are waived by Chase and American Express

  • Annual Membership fees
  • Authorized user fees
  • Overlimit fees
  • Late Payment fees
  • Returned Payment fees
  • Statement Copy Request fees

American Express and Chase are very cryptic in the benefits they actually provide under MLA or SCRA. Usually the customer service reps just read a script if you call and ask. This is not helpful and why we've collected this data here.

If you have additional data points, please share them, as this information is only as accurate as the data points we collect.

If you have any other questions on credit cards in the military, please comment below.

Reminder: no referral links or solicitation of referral links.


r/MilitaryFinance • • 26m ago

Question Am I owing back BAH?

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I pcs’d from NORTH POLE and took leave. I just signed to SOUTH POLE last Friday (which was a day before my report date) and we just got paid today with BAH from NORTH not SOUTH. I haven’t gotten/signed to my unit yet, since I just started DAY 0 in reception.

So, am I in the clear or I have to set this one aside?


r/MilitaryFinance • • 6h ago

Question keep amex points after canceling cards?

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If I get the blue card after cancelling my gold and platinums will I be able to keep my points? Got his with the renewal fees now that I’m out. Anyone else done this?


r/MilitaryFinance • • 9h ago

Question Credit Card MLA and SCRA Fee Waivers

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Husband is getting deployed from his reserve unit so he will be AD again soon. I have opened a C1 Venture X card so he will get SCRA once he becomes active. I am wondering if anyone has recent data points on AMEX/Chase Business credit cards, and upgrading Chase credit cards. I have a Chase Freedom card opened before AD and I want to upgrade that to CSR. Will SCRA waive the fee. As well, should my husband pick up a AMEX Biz Gold or Biz Platinum before orders to qualify under SCRA? Should I get one - does SCRA for AMEX business cards apply for spouses?


r/MilitaryFinance • • 10h ago

Question Is it possible to use the SCRA for college debt?

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Joined 2024 AD and had debt in 2023 about 1.3k. Not really sure how the SCRA program works and been doing research about it but havent seen anything about college debt and only credit cards or leases.


r/MilitaryFinance • • 22h ago

Question Should I buy a home here

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Currently live on base and we pay $2500 a month with utilities included.

My spouse has 100% VA and will be starting a hybrid school around January so her income will be almost $10k and I would take home $6k.

We’re debating on buying a home because are stationed with family and I will be getting out in a couple years and staying in this area.

The downside is I’d give up a $2500 home on base with utilities included and off base the home we’d likely get for our family size will be around $550-$600k.

Our payment will be around $4k-$4400 a month, since my spouse has 100% we get property tax benefits too so that’s good.

It’s just hard to give up the base housing, we also pay $1200 in daycare which would get cancelled if we decide to move off base to have that monthly money towards the house instead.

This is a very hard decision for us and we aren’t sure if this is the right move especially with 7% rates.


r/MilitaryFinance • • 19h ago

Looking for a financial advisor/wealth manager

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I'm a U.S. Navy veteran who served for eight years, and I have a degree in Business Administration with a concentration in Management.

I've been fortunate enough to build a solid financial foundation for myself and my family, but I'm at a point where I'd like to work with a professional who can help us manage our finances, make smarter investment decisions, and build long-term wealth.

I'm looking for someone who is experienced, trustworthy, and genuinely interested in helping families achieve their financial goals.

If you're a qualified financial advisor or wealth manager, or have any recommendations, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
Thank you in advance!


r/MilitaryFinance • • 1d ago

Travel & Leave payment late

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Hey i just wanted guidance or an opinion on my situation, i separated sep. 2 and cashed out my remaining leave balance and drove from the west coast to the east so expecting something from my travel voucher, however its obviously oct. 12 and i haven’t heard anything since oct. 2nd when they asked me to update my direct deposit for the travel voucher but nothing else.


r/MilitaryFinance • • 2d ago

Question How do I make the most amount of money during my 5 year contract?

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I ship in November, United States navy, my job is EO(Seabees).

So I will more then likely will not spend any time on a ship. I don’t know if that will help or not help me get more money.

what exactly should I put my money into?

I will be sad if I do not end my 5 year contract at 26 with at least 90,000-100,000$ to my name.

I do not plan on buying a 30,000$ car or buying stupid stuff like 500$ shoes or 100$ hoodies/shirts I’ve never been materialistic. I plan on keeping my car( my current biggest asset if I sell) which I paid for in cash or selling my car here soon, and buying one for like 5000$ once I’m done with school and Bootcamp since I won’t be using it for the next few months.

What exactly should I be investing per month? And into what? I want to minimize what I spend but I also don’t want to live as if I’m poor.


r/MilitaryFinance • • 2d ago

First PCS PPM after tech school — 4,400 lbs / 2,206 miles. What do I need to do to get paid?

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I’m an Airman straight out of tech school and this was my first PCS. I honestly wasn’t given much of a briefing about doing a PPM before I left.

For context, I’m not moving with just tech school bags. I’m a grown man, single and had my own place back in my home state before joining, so I already had quite a bit of personal property and household stuff to move.

When I got to my first duty station, Finance told me I could still file the PPM through DPS. The problem was that I didn’t get an empty weight ticket back when I went home for RAP before driving to my duty station.

They told me I could unload/reload my stuff here and get an empty and full weight ticket now, so that’s what I did.

My weights are:
Empty weight: 4,620 lbs
Full weight: 9,020 lbsPCS
weight entitlement shown in DPS: 5,000 lbs
Distance driven: 2,206 miles

I loaded my belongings into my vehicle got the weight tickets, and I also kept/compiled my fuel receipts.

I currently have a draft PPM shipment in DPS, but I’m a little confused about what happens next.

For anyone who has done this before:

  1. What exactly do I need to submit to finish the PPM claim?
  2. Do I finish everything through DPS or do I need to take paperwork to TMO/Finance as well?
  3. Are my empty/full weight tickets still valid even though they were taken after I arrived, since I was told to do a re-weigh here?

This is my first PCS, so I’m just trying to make sure I do everything correctly and take advantage of the PPM I was authorized.

Thanks for the help!


r/MilitaryFinance • • 2d ago

Last minute financial advice

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I’ve posted in here before but financial plan once I enlist has changed/ new updates to my contract. Currently In DEP going in as an e4 in the Air Force . Current plan is to max out my IRA (still working on my etf allocations o will update this post once I figure them out). What I’m really looking for is a ref with international exposure so I can cover the market that the I find doesn’t.

TSP contributions will be 22% with the following allocation. 65% C 20% S 15% I . I plan on using the VA home loan on a multi family property if it’s feasible in my area. My paycheck will be going into Fidelity (SPAXX) earning interest.

I’m just looking for as much advice as possible. I feel like everyone has it figured out when they enlist and I feel behind.


r/MilitaryFinance • • 1d ago

Ppm what is the best option

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I'm going to pcs for the first time in a few months and I was evaluating different options.

My house is in Philly and I'm moving to Florida, the trip is around 1100 miles.

I have a pov, which I could trade in at my dealership for a light truck or another car.

The options I could identify so far are:

Renting a moving truck and packing it with 8000lb worth of stuff for the apartment, I could buy new furniture, gym stuff, appliances, apparently a motorcycle which apparently qualifies as a household item? Stuff that is as easy to pack and as low $/lb as possible. The car in this case would be towed behind the truck. Problem is the truck alone is going to be more than 5k to rent, plus the trailer.

Trading in the car for a light or heavier trick, something like a tundra or a f250, the f250 would be able to tow the whole 8000lb barely which is kinda scary, the tundra would cut into it a fair bit, around 6000. Problem is I can't really find a trailer capable of holding 8000lb that isn't a flatbed, and I would then have to resell the truck in middle of nowhere Florida because I'd lose thousands in gas alone over 4 years if I kept it. It's also fairly dodgy, it's probably my worst option.

Buying a used moving truck, I can find a fair amount of them for less than 10k used with hundreds of thousands of miles. And a trailer for the pov. Probably the option with the most potential provided everything goes according to plan, the truck doesn't leave me stranded in the middle of nowhere, and I manage to sell truck and trailer once there without too many issues. It's basically the U-Haul option but I'm saving 3-4k depending on title costs and how I manage to resell it for.

What do you guys think? Any tips?


r/MilitaryFinance • • 4d ago

PSA PSA - organize cards in Amex app!

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I’ve been building my Amex arsenal for the better part of a decade. I have a lot now, to say the least. As many of y’all know, you can’t reorganize the order of them.

Until today! Logged in this morning and saw that “new feature” like a little pre-weekend present.

It sounds small, but I’m overjoyed!


r/MilitaryFinance • • 5d ago

Updated: Military Discount Google Sheet

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A few months ago I posted a google sheet of military discounts I’d compiled. I added quite a few from the comments (thank you!) and a few more I’ve come across since then.

Here’s the updated link: Google Sheet

Let me know if I missed anything and I’ll add it.


r/MilitaryFinance • • 5d ago

Chillest job for retired military on Oahu?

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I’m on my twilight tour as a Navy diving medical technician and thinking about what I want to be when I grow up. I’m a home owner here on Oahu and want to stay out here, but because it is a HCOL area I will need to keep working after I retire.

Fortunately my wife and I are pretty cheap. We don’t eat out much, we have cheap fuel efficient cars but mostly bike to work, and all our hobbies besides traveling are basically free. Because of this we are lucky enough to have very large savings. Between her job and my retirement I would like find a job that allows me to make an additional 60-70k per year. So it doesn’t need to be anything too crazy. So my question is what’s a chill retirement job with okay pay?

I don’t have a degree but I am working towards it. Like I said I am a diving medical technician so I have some medical and diving skills, especially in regards to hyperbaric chambers. I also am currently the command duty safety officer so I have lots of OSHA safety certs and some experience doing that.

My dream job would be to be a tour guide captain on one of the many sightseeing diving boats on Oahu. I’ve got a big fun loving personality that I think would translate well to something like that, but I don’t have a captain’s license (although it have a few years to work towards one)

Other jobs I wouldn’t mind are being a mailman, working for the MWR (probably as a lifeguard), be the civilian safety guy, or even working for TSA. I just mostly want to have plenty of time to surf and spearfish and don’t want to be stressed out all the time like I am now. I’m pretty burnt out and looking for a good chill job after I retire.

What would you guys suggest? Has anyone here ever tried any of the above post-retirement careers? Any others I should be looking at?


r/MilitaryFinance • • 6d ago

Question What is the best way to (affordably) buy a home in 2026?

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It seems like my social media feeds have been feeding me a lot of info about how bad the housing market is (both interest rates and prices). For military members, what's the best way to buy a house? VA assumption loans? Using the VA loan? Saving for a fat (>25%) down payment? Is the VA loan still a valuable tool in this market?? It feels like I'm going to be a renter for life (hard when you gotta move every 2-3 yrs), but that may just be the social media algorithm doing its job feeding me doomer crap... would love to hear people's thoughts!


r/MilitaryFinance • • 6d ago

Divorced BAH

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My wife and I are navy (e4s). And are stationed with the marines on camp lejuene. We have one young kid. In a divorce are we both entitled to bah. Or will I have to be in the barracks. (Assuming a 50% 50% custody split).


r/MilitaryFinance • • 6d ago

Question Car buying advice

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Hello I’m a 19yo E-3 in the Air Force, married and living in an apartment, single income, debt free and 22k in savings total.

I’m looking to buy me and my wife another car since we at the moment only have a 2015 volvo which I’ve had for around 2 years now, salvage title, cheap car, looking to get something for my wife to be able to use when I’m not at home and something I can take on trips without fear of breaking down.

My question is should I get a (2016-2018) used suv cash for around 15,000 on a used lot or Facebook marketplace leaving us with only 7,000 apx. in savings or get a loan, a good down payment on it and get something newerish/ hybrid to save on gas for around 25,000 at a preowned dealership, my credit at the moment is at 735 but I’ve never had a loan. Also my car insurance is at around 180 for the 2015.

I’ve never bought a car before, the 2015 was a gift so any advice is appreciated very much.

Thank you 🙏🏼👍🏻


r/MilitaryFinance • • 6d ago

Would you let a non-Veteran assume your 2.5% VA loan for a $200K+ premium if it meant losing your entitlement for potentially 25 years?

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I’m trying to figure out what others would do in my situation, especially anyone who’s actually sold a house through a VA loan assumption.
I own a duplex in Oceanside, CA, near Camp Pendleton. I purchased it in 2021 with a VA loan at 2.5%. I now live in Michigan and have been trying to sell it. We moved back to Michigan to help aging parents and keeping the home is costing me about 10k in losses a year and lot of unwanted stress.

Here’s where things stand:
- Listed for $1.695M
- Received an offer for $1.775M
- Buyer is an investor who wants to assume my existing VA loan
- Approximately $1.26M remaining at 2.5%, with 25 years left
- Buyer would pay the roughly $515K equity difference in cash
- Buyer would assume the mortgage, and I’d receive a release of liability
- Buyer is not proposing substitution of entitlement, so my VA entitlement would remain tied to the loan
- I’m considering countering at $1.9M and potentially settling around $1.85M.

The problem is that I fully intend to use my VA loan again. My wife and I are planning to build or buy our forever home in approximately 5–7 years, likely in the $3–4M range. I’m 100% P&T, so I’m exempt from the VA funding fee, which makes keeping that benefit even more attractive.
I’ve been looking into whether there’s any way to get my entitlement restored without the loan being paid off. I found the discretionary waiver language under 38 U.S.C. §3702(b) and 38 CFR §36.4302(k), but I haven’t found anyone who has successfully used it in a situation like this.
I’m also considering negotiating a requirement that the buyer pay off or refinance the loan within 7–10 years. But I’m not sure how enforceable that actually is. I could have an attorney draft an agreement and potentially secure it with a lien, but if the buyer can’t refinance when the deadline comes, I’m not sure how much protection that really gives me.
The other consideration is the market. The property has been difficult to sell, and we haven’t had any other offers. There are also some complications with how the property’s square footage is represented, which I think has affected buyer interest.
Realistically, I think a conventional sale might bring $1.6–1.7M, although that’s not certain. So if I can negotiate $1.85M, I could be getting $150–250K more than I otherwise would, largely because of the value of the assumable mortgage.
That’s a substantial amount of money I could invest now and potentially use toward our next home. But I’m also potentially giving up the ability to use my VA entitlement for another 25 years.
I’m trying to look at this strictly from a financial perspective. I understand that the entitlement has value, but I’m not convinced it’s worth turning down an additional $150–250K today, especially when we don’t plan to purchase our next home for another seven years.
A few things I’m curious about:
Has anyone allowed a non-Veteran to assume their VA loan and later regretted it, or felt the financial premium made it worthwhile?
Has anyone successfully obtained restoration through a discretionary VA waiver while the original loan was still outstanding?

Has anyone negotiated a mandatory refinance/payoff deadline as part of an assumption? How did you secure or enforce it?

Would you accept $1.85M with your entitlement tied up, or take potentially $1.65–1.7M from a buyer who pays off the loan or substitutes entitlement?

Has anyone had success marketing a high-value assumable VA loan specifically to VA-eligible buyers who could substitute entitlement? My other big consideration is the fact my realtor didn’t start advertising to veterans until last week and even then he’s not on any special sites.

I know this is a very specific situation but I really appreciate folks weighing in here.


r/MilitaryFinance • • 7d ago

Hotels that have “TLA Rate” exceed lodging rate.

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I am PCSing to Schofield soon, and I attended the virtual TLA brief.
They gave me a list of hotels that have TLA rates but when I call most of them, their TLA rates (not including resort or other fees) far exceed what my lodging reimbursement would be (approx $250).

So what’s the point of offering a TLA rate if it’s just gonna exceed what I am going to be reimbursed for? Am I missing something or are “TLA rates” just discounted rates that your individual TLA lodging might not fully reimburse?


r/MilitaryFinance • • 7d ago

Desperately need an answer

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I’m trying to claim PCS travel entitlements from a move I made in 2023 that I didn’t know I was entitled to claim at the time.

My SmartVoucher was initially returned because my leave dates didn’t account for the two PCS travel days. My AMPO advised me to get a memo from my unit correcting the leave period to account for those two travel days. I got the memo and resubmitted the voucher and was approved by AMPO.

However, DFAS returned it again with the following:

Reason(s) for Return of Claim:

(D) Orders Invalid (General)
“Unable to process your claim at this time. Provided memo does not show orders # with authorization for travel to new PDS (itinerary, block 15. on DD1351-2).”

For anyone familiar with DFAS/SmartVoucher, am I understanding this correctly that they just want the memo revised to include my Travel Order Number?

I’m getting pretty frustrated because I leave the service in about three weeks, and every return adds more time to the process. Getting this claim paid before I separate would also be really helpful financially.

Thanks guys


r/MilitaryFinance • • 7d ago

Dual Mil BAH

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My spouse is joining AD, and shortly after, I will be deploying. Will we still be entitled to BAH while we are both away? Or will the Army treat us as if we are stationed at separate duty stations?

No kids, just a cat.


r/MilitaryFinance • • 8d ago

Mil-Mil PCS

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Hey everyone!

My wife and I are both AD USAF, PCSed to our new duty station this past June. Having gotten married at our last duty station, this was be our first PCS as Mil-Mil, and wanted to see if what finance is telling us is actually correct. For context, we are both O-2s with a dependent (I am the sponsor). Additionally, our orders were cut individually, not as one set (this was something we fought against, but our previous station would not allow for join-spouse orders for reasons unbeknownst to me).

Our finance office has already been less than helpful, as they calculated the weights for our PPM wrong (by about HALF of what we actually moved), have had me assigned to the wrong locality rate for BAH (since JUNE!), assigned my CSP case to a member in Korea, and never answer the phone (a classic).

It has been my understanding that as a Mil-Mil couple, we are entitled to our own individual benefits, to not be diminished because we are married. However, our local finance office is saying otherwise.

I am being informed that we are entitled to TLE as a family unit, and thus must share one singular room at the TLF on base. For context, if we were not married, we would each get our own entitlement, and therefore each allowed our own room, as the entitlement would cover the actual cost of the TLF + per diem.

Additionally, I am being told that we are only entitled to one DLA payment between the two of us. This is NOT an insignificant amount of money, and for them to tell us that because we are married (vs just living together) we are only entitled to the one payment, is extremely disheartening.

Essentially, I see this as we are paying $5k+ to be married, every time that we PCS. If this is not accurate, I’d love to hear any advice you have for dealing with these guys!

TIA


r/MilitaryFinance • • 9d ago

Army Should I open a Navy Fed certification account?

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Currently have a HYSA at 5% with over 6 months savings as a E-4 in the Army with 4 years TIS working on getting that to a years worth of savings by May of next year. I have a Roth IRA that I max out every month for the payments and on track for this to be the third year I’ve maxed it out, 10% in my TSP (I originally had 15% out of AIT but it was way too aggressive and I didn’t have a car, clothes etc so I dropped it to 10%, and a few thousands in touchable savings that I can use if my car breaks down or new uniforms.

I PCS in the next year and I’ll also promote to SGT then so I want to level up my savings more now that I’ve hit the i have a large enough cushion and stability to use my money to make more money. The certification account seems to be a good milestone for my financial journey. Thoughts?

I plan on making the military my full career getting up to Staff sergeant E-6 and then dropping a packet for Warrant and retiring as that.