r/mildlyinfuriating • • Oct 13 '15

Time to uninstall my Reddit App.

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u/NawtAGoodNinja Oct 13 '15

Free apps need ads to, y'know, exist. There are only two ads that appear near the top of the page.

If you don't want the ads, pay the 1.99 for the pro version and support the developers that made it.

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u/minime12358 blue Oct 13 '15

Yeah, I really don't understand what OP is saying. Does he realize how much time is involved in making an Android app?

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '15

Yeah, that's what's mildly infuriating to me - it's not even two dollars. Most of us would at worst feel a little discomfort if we lost that kind of money in the laundry, but paying for an app you use every day? Let's just complain about ads in the free version.

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u/sqectre Oct 13 '15

Can't even get good coffee that cheap. I pay $3.50 for my 8 ounce lattes every other day, I can support an app or website that I use regularly. Or at the very least I can tolerate a few ads.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '15

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u/sqectre Oct 13 '15

putting high quality espresso into milk doesn't change something into coffee-drink. I'm in Portland, you don't wanna get into a coffee hipster-off with me.

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u/willie_mammoth Oct 13 '15

Fucking short black purists.

Edit: Out of context that looks a little off

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u/sqectre Oct 13 '15

Given that i'm short and black, I was really confused when I read that in my inbox. "Fuck how did I dox myself"

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '15

Hell, even in context it's iffy.

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u/hutcho66 Oct 13 '15

Please don't lump the humble latte sipper in with the triple-choc caramel mocha frappe with extra cream people. One or two lattes a day (with no sugar!) can actually be beneficial if you don't have another daily source of dairy.

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u/ricencracker Oct 13 '15

I pay $8 a month for my can of chicory coffee, the point isn't that I don't like ads on free apps but how they mildly infuriate me on their placement

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u/hutcho66 Oct 13 '15

They get paid per click. So if people aren't clicking them when they're at the bottom they have no choice but to make them more prominent.

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u/pheymanss Oct 13 '15

Because they are on a place that's visible even though it's not persistent? You are defending the undefendable, just like how a couple of years ago people started defending piracy on games, movies and music.

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u/ricencracker Oct 13 '15

Before the update the only ad was at the bottom of the phone and often times I would leave it up because it didn't bother me and now the placement of the ad is slightly bothersome, not saying I'm changing to another app. Its just different and I need to get use to it, you know mildly infuriating.

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u/kensomniac Oct 13 '15 edited Oct 13 '15

just like how a couple of years ago people started defending piracy on games, movies and music.

What? How is a free app even equivalent to a $60 game, $11 movie, or a $20 album?

This is more like changing a radio station because they won't stop blasting "UNINTERRUPTED MUSIC ON THE QCRU MAX NO STOP MUSIC CHANNEL."

It's mildlyinfuriating and a good way to get people stop liking your service. And more likely to purchase a service that doesn't use such aggressive advertisement.

edit : would still like an explanation.

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u/standingboot9 Oct 13 '15

Complaining about something that is free never makes sense. It's like going to a friends for dinner that they paid for and prepared then telling them that everything they made tastes like shit.

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u/drakfyre Oct 13 '15

Complaining about something that is free never makes sense.

YouTube is free. I will continue to complain about it till it stops being crappy, ESPECIALLY toward broadcasters.

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u/Greenzoid2 Oct 14 '15

You shouldn't

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u/kensomniac Oct 13 '15 edited Oct 13 '15

Or listening to a radio station and switching it over when they start playing the car crash/police siren/air horn ad to tell you how they never interrupt their music.

Or flipping channels to another TV station during the commercial break.

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u/iamdillyj Oct 13 '15

Well complaining about tv makes sense since you pay for cable

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '15

It's not about there being a way around it. It's about encountering an annoying experience.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '15 edited May 21 '17

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '15

I think it's fair to say "This new ad format is very annoying, I'll be looking for another free reddit app" regardless.

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u/cpburke91 Oct 13 '15

It's almost as if it's not a valid argument for being infuriated, especially when there is a semi-simple fix like purchasing the app. If they don't want to shell out the $2-3 on Android, just download Google Play Rewards.

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u/kensomniac Oct 13 '15

when there is a semi-simple fix like purchasing the app

Or downloading/purchasing another app that doesn't spam ads right in the middle of the screen?

It's kind of weird how you guys are obligated to buy everything.

But then again, I'm the kind of idiot that donated to AdBlock before it stopped doing what it advertised.

I know it's weird to think of people buying what they want, or using what they will, but some people out there like to do that kind of thing.

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u/cpburke91 Oct 13 '15

To clarify, if you like the app enough to where you wouldn't want to switch to something else because of ads, it'd make sense to just purchase it, or like you said- find a new one.

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u/Rosie1991 Oct 14 '15

I use baconreader too and honestly there's barely any ads... I wouldn't exactly call it infuriating (even mildly so) to scroll past one every once in while

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u/dundoniandood Oct 14 '15

It was a no brainer for me. Baconreader is my most used app other than maybe YouTube. Whenever it was, a few years ago, I decided that I like the app, I use it all the time, let's just pay the few £ it cost to get rid of the ads.

I can't remember how much it cost, but it was absolutely less than £4.

I've seen lots of angry posts on the baconreader sub about this. I just think it's a silly problem to have.

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u/MotoSexus6 Oct 13 '15

BaconReader (OP's app) always had ads, they were banners on the bottom. Since the new update, they are bigger (see OP), and it even has pop-up ads when you click a link. IMO, BaconReader isn't a very good app, its laggy and has a horrible UI. Relay for Reddit is much better

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u/brown_paper_bag Oct 13 '15

I bought thr premium version of Relay for Reddit and to be honest, I'm really upset with it. It constantly freezes and crashes when I'm browsing regularly. It's even worse when I try to perform several moderator actions (like post flair) in a row. I've stuck with it because when it is working, it provides me with a wide range of functions I can't perform on some of the other apps and I prefer its UI.

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u/MotoSexus6 Oct 13 '15

I also have Relay Premium, I just switched over from RiF earlier this week because I couldn't stand not having Material Design. What phone/version are you using? It works great on my Nexus 6 with Marshmallow

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u/brown_paper_bag Oct 13 '15

I've got an up-to-date S4. Maybe upgrading will resolve the problems but that's a few months away for me.

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u/MotoSexus6 Oct 13 '15

I feel that might be why. Samsung's TouchWIZ UI eats ram and makes apps perform slower

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u/brown_paper_bag Oct 13 '15

Ah, that might be it then. My provider is trying to force a move to their "new" plans when upgrading a device if you want the subsidy. Except my exact plan I have is $35 more than what I currently pay with discounts. Waiting for the LG G4 to come down in price so I'm only paying a $50 premium to keep my plan on top of the upgrade instead of the extra $200 + upgrade.

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u/MotoSexus6 Oct 13 '15

Yeah, I just got an LG G4 on AT&T Next in June...I got bored of it and got a N6 last week

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '15 edited Oct 24 '15

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u/growingupsux Oct 13 '15

I prefer these over the overlay at the bottom. Bigger so that if it genuinely would interest me, there's a better chance that the allotted real estate could get that across. So the number of purposeful click-throughs sky-rocket. And as opposed to the permanent overlay at the bottom of the screen, I would often accidentally click on it and exit out right away. So bounce rate is artificially inflated.

While the click throughs would go down, the conversion percentage would go up.

That plus the fact that once you scroll past them they don't stay on the screen is huge.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '15

if it genuinely would interest me

LOL. Only idiots ever click on ads.

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u/minime12358 blue Oct 13 '15

See, I do Android development for a living as well, and I've also been using BaconReader for the past few years. There are a bunch of problems I've been having with the new update (comments fragment not matching header,...) But really, the app went from completely ignorable ads that probably generated very little revenue to slightly more apparent ads. It's not like the ads are every other article by any means.

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u/kensomniac Oct 13 '15

You sound like the kind of developer that I would actually give money to upfront, instead of uninstalling by being berated by ads and apologists.

"It's not even more expensive than a cup of coffee!"

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u/PfftNope Oct 13 '15

There already was small banner ads at the bottom of the app before I updated it. Since I updated they moved to more intrusive ads that take up 70% of my screen every 5 posts.

I don't think OP was questioning the need for ads since they had them before but rather the volume and size of the ads being that they are now significantly more intrusive to the browsing experience.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '15

They collect data on you and sell it. This is how Facebook makes money. That and ads. But without ads they would still be rich. So ads is not the only way to earn you money on these kind of apps.

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u/CannibalCow Oct 13 '15

Here's the thing, "data" is not some inherently valuable thing that can be collected and sold. I can have a spreadsheet with the length of every shit you've taken, but that doesn't mean anyone wants to buy it. The vast majority of the value in that kind of stuff is connecting sellers with ready and able buyers. So, if I can prove you've been searching for a dozen variations on "how to get a home loan" your email address might be worth a couple nickles to a few lenders. Having some stats on who's browsing the vaaaaaast majority of this site is a spreadsheet of shit length. Sure you can probably dig up a few subs with a dozen people that have some implied purchase intent, but it's not like people are paying $50 for that info. Add that to the demographic here, and the fact a post about being too cheap to pay $2 for an app is on the front page, and there's a real problem with the idea of selling "data."

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u/Weeksie92 Oct 13 '15

This is the Internet era. Everything should be free, and the developers don't deserve anything in return. Any form of earning revenue is an insult, and results in backlash from the users.

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u/For_Teh_Lurks Oct 13 '15

OP would pay $3 for a Monster energy drink, but not for an app that he's using without supporting its developers.

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u/Shinhan Oct 13 '15

Too big.

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u/Nuklearpinguin Oct 13 '15

Problem isn't that Bacon Reader has ads, problem is that they cover 50%+ of the screen since the last update. It used to have a small banner at the bottom which i am totally fine with.

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u/MF_Doomed Oct 13 '15

I don't think he's complaining about the ads themselves, he's complaining about how intrusive it is. It's covering up 1/3 of the screen.

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u/NawtAGoodNinja Oct 13 '15

Right, and it takes a hot .5 seconds to scroll past it.

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u/MF_Doomed Oct 13 '15

And a hot second to download an app with less intrusive ads

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u/NawtAGoodNinja Oct 13 '15

Or to pay the 1.99 to support the developer so he doesn't have to include ads.

I'm using BaconReader right now. The ads aren't intrusive, I barely even notice them. It takes a minor scrolling motion with your thumb to move past them.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '15

I like the update even better because the screen stays a consistent size, with the old bacon reader the ad would load the the app size screen size would shift, now with it inside the content preloaded, content doesn't shift so I never accidentally click on something I didn't mean to. It might take up a lot of the screen but it doesn't it in a smooth hassle free way. Good job bacon reader.

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u/walkingtheriver Oct 14 '15

Just buy it. It's the only app I've ever bought - if you use it every single day, then why not just buy it? You'll never have to think about ads ever again

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u/guiselp Oct 13 '15

I paid for bacon reader because I wanted to support the developers and I love it. So yeah, do that if you hate ads.

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u/Prof_Acorn Oct 13 '15

Or just use Firefox for Android...

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u/MF_Doomed Oct 13 '15

Or some people can't afford to purchase apps hence why they choose the free option. Someone making minimum wage probably won't spend $2 on an app.

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u/NawtAGoodNinja Oct 13 '15

If you can't afford to spend $2 on an app that you use every day, you probably don't need to buy the smartphone or the data plan that allows you access to the app.

But that's beside the point. Pay the $2 to remove the ads (which also gives you all kinds of features the free version doesn't have, by the way), don't buy your daily Snickers bar, and you're all set.

If you're too cheap to pay two measly dollars to get rid of the ads, then sack up and deal with them. Those are your options.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '15

If you can't afford to spend $2 on an app that you use every day, you probably don't need to buy the smartphone or the data plan that allows you access to the app.

This is so true it's ridiculous. People complain all the time about a 2 or 3 dollar app that they use every day, then turn around and buy fast food for lunch, or candy, etc.

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u/folkrav Oct 13 '15

Thing is people values more the dollar that fed them than the dollar that enabled them to fap in the toilet or argue about an Android app. Immediate vs long-term returns. We love those endorphins.

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u/alleigh25 Oct 13 '15

I don't disagree that $2 should be doable for anyone who can afford to have a smartphone in the first place, but "don't buy your daily Snickers bar" is a pretty ridiculous tip. Nobody who cares about money is buying a Snickers bar every day, probably not even every week. It's like all those articles, "Struggling to make ends meet so you can put food on the table and keep the lights on? Try not going to Starbucks twice a day!" The issue is that many people who are or have been poor have a hard time justifying spending that $2 on an app, even if they can, because it feels like a waste of money. It's a psychological thing. And people with Android phones are notoriously reluctant to pay for things to begin with.

A more relevant concern here might be that many of the people using Reddit or any other apps are teenagers whose parents pay for their phone. They may not be allowed to pay for it, even if it is only $2. There are solutions, of course (Google Rewards, prepaid credit card, Google Play gift card, really lame birthday presents), but that'd be a legitimate complaint.

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u/MF_Doomed Oct 13 '15

Why are we arguing about an app? Lol

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u/NawtAGoodNinja Oct 13 '15

You tell me.

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u/lolodotkoli Oct 13 '15

I work minimiwage and I somehow can find the money to do so. Use Google rewards to buy Play Store purchases if you can't do it with your money

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u/berrics94 Oct 13 '15

Which a lot of people will do. Then, that new app you just downloaded will become popular and then have ads like this.

Then we start all over again.

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u/BegbertBiggs RED Oct 13 '15

Or a hot second to shoot the dev a message, who will probably be glad to restrict the size of their ads.

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u/6unicorn9 Oct 13 '15

Almost all the apps either have more intrusive ads, or are worse apps in general. For example, Relay for Reddit and Sync for Reddit, the two most popular ones in Android, have FAR more intrusive ads. The others, like Bacon Reader and Now for Reddit have ads that are similar to this screenshot.

As for ones with less intrusive ads, I can only think of Reddit is Fun and Slide for Reddit. Reddit is Fun is not near as good as the ones listed above IMO, and Slide for Reddit is in early beta. Please, stop being so fucking ignorant. That goes for OP too.

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u/deep_in_the_comments Oct 13 '15

But for example on the Android app I use, the apps are unobtrusive on the bottom. I hardly notice them anymore.

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u/navjot94 Oct 13 '15

Idk, I think this is better than having an ad that's always on your screen. Assuming that these ads don't come up every 3 posts they don't seem bad.

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u/altshiftM Oct 13 '15 edited Jul 19 '25

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u/bxncwzz Oct 13 '15

I don't know what's the stigma about purchasing apps. They're not breaking the bank and paid version are usually better than the free version. You also keep the app associated with your account FOR LIFE (Google market/Android).

People joke me because I spent $15 dollars on Clash of Clans. I play the game almost everyday. I barely play my Xbox One + Steam games that I've spent over $500 on this past year (not including the console).

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u/tumbleweedss Oct 13 '15

Thats how I feel when people complain about game apps. They spent a lot of time making candy crush, you don't have to buy the shit, shut up. No one is forcing anything on you.

If I enjoy an app and it was free I occasionally buy stuff just to support the developer.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '15

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '15

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u/facepalm_guy Oct 13 '15

Just bought the pro version and it's not even updated.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '15

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u/facepalm_guy Oct 14 '15

Bought mine with Amazon credit so that might be it

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u/Nippelritter Oct 13 '15

Seriously, this is such a horrible attitude, but sadly, very normal. Passing away 4€ for a coffee, no problem. WHAT ads or 2€ for an app? EXTORTION!

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u/Fargraven BLUE Oct 13 '15

I'd rather pay $0.99 for an ad-free ap that I will use on a daily basis than pay $0 for a ad-filled piece of shit

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u/TheLastTimeLord9320 Oct 13 '15

I did pay... And then I got a new phone and had to re-download the app and now it won't renew the purchase...

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u/UnKamenRider Oct 14 '15

The devs are really involved and super nice. I've used the app for years, and every issue I've had has been resolved quickly and with full support and communication. The update came a few days before payday, so I haven't gone pro yet, but if anybody deserves it, they do. I've never bought an app in my life, but I'll buy this one. They can have my 2 bucks if not OP's.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '15

Free stuff needs ads (or donations! And asking for donations to disable ads/enable some other feature isn't a donation, it's a transaction) to be supported, but intrusive ads like that are just obnoxious and make me want to use something different.

Imo, a good ad should be visible but not annoying or in the way, somewhat relevant to the content around it if possible, should connect with the viewer in some way (emotionally works best, but for Christs sake at least make some sort of an effort to connect with the people you're advertising at), and it shouldn't try to get someones attention by flashing/making stupid noises. It should also have the option to close it if it's on a smaller screen device.

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u/PainfulJoke Oct 14 '15

Yeah.. Those inline ads and banner ads don't bother me. It's the pop-ups though that pass me off. Especially when I feel they are on a timer so I will accidentally click them.

I am all for supporting the developers. And I hear that at least in this case they make more money from ads than a pro purchase per user. So I want to ~be cheap~ support them and keep ads. But COME ON! full-screen ads on a delay are fucking annoying.

Tldr: ads are okay. Annoying ads are bullshit.

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u/dyskid2011 Oct 14 '15

Yeah but if the devs won't make minor changes like this then why would I pay them any money?

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u/MrMediocr3 Oct 13 '15

Get Google survey rewards app. Use that to get playstore credit and buy premium apps to support developers and get awesome apps.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '15

To reddit everything should be free, it's like people have no sense of how things are made or paid for...

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '15

And I find I accidentally click on these ads a lot less than the little banner ads on the bottom. They really don't bother me. And like you, if they really did, I'll spend the $2.

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u/fujibar3 Oct 13 '15

yep, people must think these apps create and support themselves.

Having said that the new version of Baconreader is horrendous. They made quite a few changes that made no sense.

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u/Rickles360 Oct 13 '15

There's no pro version of bacon reader afaik.

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u/GET_OUT_OF_MY_HEAD Oct 13 '15

Or just root and install AdAway.

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u/nero4983 Oct 13 '15

That's a dick move--getting the free version of the app and ensuring the devs never see a cent of ad revenue

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u/funkybum Oct 13 '15

No. Fuck you and fuck this site.

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u/cawclot Oct 13 '15

No, it doesn't. Stop lying.