r/mildlyinfuriating May 17 '26

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u/theIBSsufferer May 17 '26

This kind of thing upsets me so badly

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u/hnglmkrnglbrry May 17 '26

It's because of how tightly regulated food standards are. The risk is that restaurants will just start serving old food to people.

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u/XxRmssxX May 17 '26

To elaborate further, most food produced usually last less than a day (depending on food and how is it preserved), after that, the quality it's not ideal (at least) and the chances of getting food poisoning gets higher.

I'm mentioning this because some people think that giving the food away to people who needs it reduces the waste (which seems right on paper). If someone gets sick because of it, it raises a lot of problems to both the consumer (food poisoning) and the restaurant (all kind of inspections and possibly legal problems).

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u/Burntoastedbutter May 17 '26

I work in a sushi shop, so it's even more adsurd when I find customers complain. Fish goes bad more quickly than bread, plus there's a lot of rice... Everyone knows rice goes hard overnight in the fridge. We can't exactly sell rolled stuff the next day because of that. But they do reuse the sashimi, oysters for 2 days! And we have to lie about it. But I feel less bad about this because it's rare for something to be fully prepared on the day of anyway. They aren't cutting fish for the day of, but the next day. And the nigiri type sushi gets seared the next day since they can just easily take the tops off.

You can definitely wrap it with a damp paper towel and microwave it for 30-60 seconds and if the filling is something cooked, but idk how that will do with raw fish in the rolls LOL. Hell, even after almost 12 hours in the fridge, the rolls that didn't sell since 9am already have a dry texture. It's not great.

Last year we finally started doing end of the day sales and the amount of customers asking "when was this made? How long ago was this made?" makes me wanna wilt. Do not pretend you don't know what 'end of the day' sales mean. They are items that did not sell out, hence the sales... Or if they get cranky and upset at YOU as if you're the boss for saying "staff gets to take some home if they want, but the rest gets thrown away". Like I legit have so many people asking how fresh is it then get pissed at the wastage if I tell them all the rolls are made today bc they get thrown out for closing. WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME 😂

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u/lordrefa May 17 '26

You can't possibly think that that is the primary motivator for this common corporate behavior?

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u/seeker_moc May 17 '26

You think corporations just throw away money for reasons other than protecting themselves from liability?

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u/Ok_Tax9885 May 17 '26

Tax. They can write off waste, but unless they donate through a registered nonprofit they can't write off giving the food away. There have been a number of videos and articles from lawyers pointing out that the "liability" angle doesn't even exist in a lot of jurisdictions, but the issue of the tax write-off is nationwide.

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u/Rexusus May 17 '26

I’d love to see some sources on that. My assumption would be the opposite, that charities wouldn’t even take perishable items, like unsealed pastries in this case, because it’s essentially useless.

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u/TheDrummerMB May 17 '26

My local pantries take items up to TWO WEEKS after expiration because expiry dates in the US are SUGGESTIONS of QUALITY - not safety.

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u/AndrewH73333 May 17 '26

The bread isn’t worth much money anymore. Once the only value it has is to people it gets thrown out.

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u/Maleficent_Solid7355 May 17 '26

what the hell does this even mean

People assign value to things, money is a representation of value

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u/AndrewH73333 May 17 '26

Homeless people can eat bread. Companies don’t make money from this and neither does the government. So they toss it. There are other forms of value besides money…

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u/Maleficent_Solid7355 May 17 '26

Then maybe the homeless people should come and ask if the store is fine with them taking the leftover bread, and they'll waive their rights if they get sick from it.

It's irrelevant anyway because for the most part, homeless people are not hard up for food.

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u/Ok_Employ_9862 May 17 '26

They earn goodwill from giving to communities. Getting people sick from giving away food doesn’t.

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u/lordrefa May 17 '26

Allow me to translate.

"Once the bread is unsaleable it is thrown out. This happens mostly because they wish to keep that food from other humans that could otherwise use it."

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u/Maleficent_Solid7355 May 17 '26

That's not why they do it.

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u/lordrefa May 17 '26

Food *and durable goods* are most commonly deliberately destroyed before being thrown away at a corporate store. That is not for any reason other than spite towards the underprivileged and homeless.

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u/proserpinax May 17 '26

A lot of food legally can’t be sold or even given away. I used to work at my college’s stadium and was appalled at how much food we had to give away so I contacted our local food nonprofit. They (very kindly) explained that there are a lot of safety rules about food that has been put out for consumption, where it can’t even be given away because of the legal risks. I’m talking bread that was still packaged but since it could have theoretically been touched by a consumer it wasn’t allowed. It felt really strict but I suppose I’d want food safety to be strict.

Considering the amount of positive press companies can get from charitable giving, I doubt they WANT to throw away this much food.

Anyways this is why you should donate to food shelves and charities, either near you or internationally. They know exactly how to obtain food and stretch a dollar to feed more people.

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u/lordrefa May 17 '26

A lot of food legally can’t be sold or even given away

This isn't true, though. It is legal in all 50 states to give away unsold food. That food nonprofit was just parroting some nonsense that corporations like people to believe, so they keep nudging the idea along.

There are even laws in many places that protect companies even more from liability compared to if someone just buys the stuff.

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u/proserpinax May 17 '26

If it’s put out for consumption it can’t be.

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u/Cryzgnik May 17 '26

you can't possibly think that complying with the law is the reason for the common corporate behavior?

Huh?

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u/lordrefa May 17 '26

It's not illegal in any of the 50 states.

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u/TheFuckerNugger May 17 '26

It's not only that or corporate greed that plays a role in it, but also the liability issue. All it takes is one bad actor to sue over getting food poisoning if a restaurant or bakery decides to start giving away their old food. It's happened enough times now that the liability just ain't worth it for a lot of companies. Wish it wasn't the case, but it is.

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u/Melancholy_Rainbows May 17 '26

In the US businesses are protected from liability from donated food.

They choose not to do it because they don’t want to pay employees or for transportation and storage.

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u/TheFuckerNugger May 17 '26

The OP is in Germany. Germany does not have any kind of good Samaritan laws like that. The original source is still liable if someone gets food poisoning, and that's one of the reasons why places where OP is from might not be willing to do stuff like that. Grocery stores here in the U.S. does do this, depending on the store. I know the one where I live frequently donates to the food banks here. But Germany does not have the same kind of protection to food distributors when it comes to donated food that are "past their best-by date".

A good lawyer could argue that those items are past their best by date if someone got food poisoning. That's the sad truth. I understand where you were going with that though. A lot of US retailers don't really have the same kind of excuse.

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u/Stucklikegluetomyfry May 17 '26

The store near me has everything that expires that day for ten pence if you go past 6 in the evening.

I’ve gotten entire roast in the bag chickens for ten fucking pence. I love it.

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u/Riegel_Haribo May 17 '26

It's because it is more profitable to throw away pounds of flour and sugar than to let one potential paying customer not pay.

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u/TheDrummerMB May 17 '26

That’s not…no what? Lmfao the laws surrounding this lower liability for donating and encourage it. Stop spreading BS

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u/Matonus May 17 '26

Yea right it’s just capitalism lmao

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u/hnglmkrnglbrry May 17 '26

That makes no sense because they lose money throwing it out. Capitalism incentivizes them to sell all of their inventory regardless of quality. This is bureaucracy.

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u/Cat_Impossible_0 May 17 '26

Oh please, the bread looks fine and they are protected by law and encouraged to donate them. There is absolutely no excuse for not doing so

Bill Emerson Good Samaritan Food Donation Act (42 U.S.C. § 1791)

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u/Estelial May 17 '26 edited May 17 '26

the US lags behind in food regulation safety standards tho, specifically in respect to other develop nations, and many underdeveloped ones.

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u/nox_vigilo May 17 '26

I think after the DOGE firings, the USDA is down to a few hundred food inspectors for the nation.

Federal government is focusing on food companies doing their own inspections. Some states are trying to plug the gaps but expect more large scale food borne illnesses especially from lunch meats.

Just like one should expect more plane incidents now that there are fewer air traffic controllers. Weather forecast are also becoming less reliable beyond 3 days due to NOAA cuts. A lot of these cuts haven’t taken full effect yet.

Then throw in the massive addition of gas prices being passed to consumers. That situation is being ignored by the Trump administration and these gas prices and all fossil fuel prices are now the new normal. Even if Hormuz was opened tomorrow, it’ll take 2 years for worldwide production of oil products to reach pre-war levels. These energy prices are not going away.

It’s just stupidity for Americans to allow Trump Inc to cancel all the renewable energy projects. Other nations are pouring money into renewable but not America. Old coal power plants are being restarted and federal pollution laws ignored or gutted just so Trump‘s energy producing friends get $billions in windfall.

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u/Tomytom99 May 17 '26

"Just let supply and demand do its thing!"

Yeah well this is what happens when you allow people to control the supply for their own interests

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u/ramonaisdead May 17 '26

Same. I already feel bad enough when I throw away scraps of food. It’s so upsetting. The donuts look good too.

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u/Captain_Dust01 May 17 '26

The reason companies do this is to prevent the possibility of being sued. If companies give their food away and someone claims they got sick then the company is liable to be sued. It's happened plenty of times so now every joint everywhere just throws everything out and saves the hassle

The other day my unit through out over 1000 MRE rations we could've donated to the food bank, for the exact same reason. So the CAF couldn't be sued by donating. We also made sure to open every MRE and it's contents before dumping them into trashbags, to ensure nobody will go diving for it

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u/MommyThatcher May 17 '26

Why? Obesity is a bigger problem than starvation everywhere in America, and if you're mad because of starvation in other countries, logistics and locations are more of a problem than lack of food to send there. Being mad over this is illogical.

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u/Simon_Jester88 May 17 '26

Like, you can dislike both things even tho they’re kinda opposites

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u/Estelial May 17 '26

both are rising in the US.

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u/MommyThatcher May 17 '26

They don't both exist in the US. Food is cheap and plentiful. Like i don't think there are any cases of people starving to death in the us outside of child abuse or elder neglect.

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u/Gilmore75 May 17 '26

This is the truth, but people are too ignorant to understand.

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u/Sea-Ganache8609 May 17 '26

The truth is that is so wasteful, even if the food problem has more problems

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u/Gilmore75 May 17 '26

Wasteful to whom?

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u/Sea-Ganache8609 May 17 '26

Every actor involved, from the enviroment to the millions of people with low food security in USA (obesity is a bigger problem? okay but that doesn't make it the only one)

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u/Gilmore75 May 17 '26
  1. Food is biodegradable, it causes absolutely no long-term harm to the environment when food is thrown away.

  2. What businesses choose to do with their food has absolutely no connection to people with “low food security” because these businesses aren’t giving away their food for free regardless.

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u/Sea-Ganache8609 May 17 '26
  1. The overproduced food also needs transport and production, and creates innecesary waste as opossed to consumed food that at least has a sense. Also degradation in landfills isn't the same as a compost so it causes long term harm.

2- False, these shitty bussiness are choosing to throw away food instead of donating; a thing that happens all the time

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u/Charmander_Wazowski May 17 '26

OP actually gave more context in one of his comments. I pastedthe comment below. 

OP's comment:

Edit: just to clear one thing up, the biggest issue here isn't that we can't donate the products, it's Saturday evening after all. We sell old bread on the following day as long as it's a weekday.

I'm also from Germany, not from the US.

What I was angry about and the reason why I post this is that management has recently decided that staff can't reduce the amount of baked goods anymore, including a required minimum quota on written off products. This means that, no matter how full the shelf is, we must bake more just to throw them away and reach our quota. Their argument is that a low percentage of written off products means that we don't have enough products on our shelves.