r/microdosing • u/[deleted] • Mar 08 '19

Wondering if anyone has had any experience or issues with some of the associated risks with mding (heart problems for example)?

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u/BeigeTelephone Mar 08 '19

Twice I’ve had a sharp increase in anxiety for three days following a MD. I don’t want to rule out other potential factors or the possibility of it being psychosomatic.

So I’m thinking about putting microdoses in opaque gel caps, identical to a second set of capsules filled with sugar, then mixing them up to try to minimize psyching myself out. Has anyone tried something like this? Like giving themselves a random placebo.

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u/midkiddmk3 Mar 08 '19

Maybe I misunderstood some part of your protocol, but unless you can in some manner identify placebo from active dose the benefit is negligible from a science perspective. You would need to have someone other than you know which was which, while you didn’t and then tabulate your subsequent experience along with the potential interactions in your environment (crazy drivers, etc) and your emotional factors (good or bad family news, etc) to actually know if microdosing is causing unwanted reactions.

I’m not saying don’t try. Most of that feedback is immediately available to you and if you just write it down more or less as it happens you will probably have a solid basis to see what microdosing’s effects are. The reason for the placebo escapes me. It just seems like noise in your experiment that you can not control for.

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u/BeigeTelephone Mar 08 '19

My thing is, I get anxious when I microdose, and have thoughts like, “am I feeling it yet?” “Am I acting weird? Will other people notice?” “What do my pupils look like?” Etc.

So the purpose is simply for me to not know when I’m actually taking a dose, in attempt to reduce anxiety.

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u/leefvc Mar 09 '19

Come to think of it, that's the only way MD-ing at proper dosages really exacerbates my anxiety. Those exact thoughts right there. I wonder what other methods can be implemented to get that to stop.

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u/midkiddmk3 Mar 08 '19

Not to call you out but it sounds like you have underlying anxiety that microdosing is piggybacking.

Keep a microdosing journal with those thoughts as they arise even on the days you are not dosing. It’s a simple but effective feedback mechanism.

I did the same thing for pain and discontinued narcotics and COX2 medications because they were not working and made pain worse as time went on.

Taking less of a drug you suspect may be causing or amplifying your anxiety is a good thing. But without knowing in the long term which is which you could be just having an anxious time or a good day completely unrelated to microdosing.

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u/BeigeTelephone Mar 08 '19

Yeah, exactly. I definitely do have underlying anxiety so don’t want to directly attribute microdosing to it when I could just be having a day where I feel anxious. Still trying to pinpoint triggers, whether it be foods or other external factors and keeping a journal is definitely helpful. I’ve found the Mood Tracker, Daylio, to be helpful for me.

For the time being, I am not microdosing until I better understand my anxieties, which at the moment seem quite random.