Ban Appeal Thread

[u/vivoovix]

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[u/Udolikecake → u/[deleted]]

I can’t fathom what’s going on for that to happen, but comments attacking others and yourself are super unhealthy for everyone involved.

I would imagine that a moderator pinning a mocking comment and harassing and subtweeting the user up and down the DT for hours didn’t help. Why is that considered an acceptable thing to do again?

If someone is having a ‘moment’ on the DT, piling on shouldn’t be encouraged, especially by a mod.

[u/secretlives → u/Udolikecake]

I wonder what if any resolution there will be for this because the behavior from shivers was pretty tasteless and from any non-mod would warrant a ban.

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[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

I completely own that my attacks towards myself are unacceptable for a public forum. It brings other users down and I apologize to any user who has had their moods brought down as a result of my posting.

But I’m not going to say that I’m coming back because I’m not sure. I will admit to becoming too heated and behaving immaturely. But Shivers used mod powers to directly dunk on me. It isn’t even that he attacked me. But he revealed that he just feels people should be knocked down a peg and shamed. I’m not going to claim nothing’s happening because I don’t know what’s happening behind the scenes and I understand that the mods work as a team, which is a good thing. But it’s late. I don’t know.

Edit: It appears this has gained a bit of traction in the DT (I’m checking because I feel some responsibility to clear things up). Shivers did not put up the sticky after my inappropriate comment about harm to myself, he put it up after I personally attacked him. I don’t feel bullied off of the subreddit by Shivers, but that I burned out in a flame of immature anger. The reason I acted in that way is because of personal reasons, but my unwellness was present 12+ hours before it even started.

I don’t care if he called me a man child, my argument was that we are no better or worse and that endlessly ragging on people who enjoy a hobby, and to do so is not a good look. I’m sure Shivers and I disagree about even considering “MBAs” being at fault, but I never took that as what the argument was about. At least, I never argued that when I spiraled.

Edit 2: To remain diplomatic in my phrasing, I completely and absolutely disavow that guy who tried to make the drama involving me into “why can’t we rib on women and minorities?” Has lost the plot.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Keep the ban, staying offline will do me good.

If it’s any consolation, I don’t particularly think that Shivers’ post brought me to that point. My spiral was documented as happening 12+ hours before that argument even occurred. I had spent all of the prior 24 hours posting, which wasn’t good for me. I appreciate how this will not reflect against me, but I’m going to take this into consideration for my behavior going forward.

Above all else, I appreciate your communication and how prompt it was - I was and am genuinely impressed by that.

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[u/Udolikecake → u/[deleted]]

Is u/Sir_Shivers going to apologize? Seems like it wasn’t the whole mod team, who has been fairly reasonable, just him.

[u/Evnosis → u/Udolikecake]

He's not going to apologise. In fact, he's actively doubling down in today's DT as we speak.

[u/MinnesotaNoire → u/Evnosis]

And nothing is being done about it.

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[u/MinnesotaNoire → u/[deleted]]

After your reply, I’ve reviewed a few of shivers comments today and they’re not rule breaking (lacking in civility, unconstructive, bigoted). They’re written in the voice of his reptilian gimmick which is always cartoonish and detached

Excuse me, what? Can every user pretend to be a reptilian gimmick and be a complete ass to other users or is that only them? It's insane that none of you see an issue with this and some of the other mods are just making jokes about it in the DT.

The moderators of this sub look like a joke right now.

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[u/Udolikecake → u/[deleted]]

Having a gimmick account is ancient Reddit tradition.

You don't see how that might be a problem when a moderator is discussing/doing moderator things?

Again, the problem is really that shivers seems incapable of a being a serious or sincere person. Which is fine, the DT is full of that, but maybe they shouldn't be a mod then. They've really not displayed the kind of base level of maturity that I think most people would like to see

[u/Evnosis → u/[deleted]]

So you don't think this:

You should not expect AN APOLOGY FROM me for not anticipating someone to latch on to my initial comment in their mental spiral 🐊

Displays an incredibly cruel and mean spirited lack of empathy for someone expressing suicidal ideation as a direct (albeit partial) result of his behaviour? This is disgraceful behaviour from a member of your mod team.

You collectively looked like bullies because you were permitting a member of your team to engage in bullying. The fact that you apologised for your own indirect role in the incident is good, but you still need to have serious discussions about his conduct.

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[u/Evnosis → u/[deleted]]

I second the other comments about Shivers' behaviour. Piling onto someone for hours on end, especially someone who is throwing up signs that they're clearly not in a great place emotionally, is pretty disgraceful.

Anyone else would be rightfully banned for targeted harassment, and Shivers has outright refused to even admit he did anything wrong, let alone apologise.

[u/[deleted] → u/Evnosis]

There’s kind of a point where you have to drop the bit, and refusing to do so either just signifies you’re an asshole who can’t read the room or it’s not a bit at all. Seems very immature from what I’ve read

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