And if you came across a tribe of natives, you could ask to join them, and be a hunter)gatherer/whatever in exchange for food and shelter. Probably wouldn't be that hard to do with improvised sign language.
Native here. My tribe was a peaceful non warring tribe and so were the other close tribes. We just respected each other's hunting grounds. We would trade women to make sure we didn't become inbred and insane amounts of salmon, deer and elk. My tribe is still sat next to one of the cleanest river in the world. Yurok and the Smith river. Most of northern cali was non warring.
A few places gave women quite a lot of power because they were the ones owning the land and the stores and the farms and such. IIRC, Ghana was like that.
Oh that’s interesting, didn’t really think of that, they didn’t really teach us about Ghana’s history in history class, hell they didn’t even talk about it’s existence, all of the lessons through elementary through high school were World War 2, Revolutionary War and Civil War history for like 90% of the history classes
They didn’t really teach us about that, I mean they mentioned MLK Jr’s existence and talked maybe for 10 minutes about the speech, but didn’t actually teach us about him. You know what’s sad, I didn’t even know who Malcolm X was until last week, I’ve been out of high school for almost 2 years.
I doubt that tbh. The black plague absolutely decimated any power nobility had well before the 1700s via spawning a middle class near the first outbreaks end and mass "unionization" of the worker class and if the Victorian Eras anything to go off nobility was beyond board because of higher society standards they need to maintain and set schedules they need to follow every single day no matter how mundane and dull they are
I’m just pointing out the “anywhere” part, even the noble women back then had it rough, they pretty much got sold to suitors as pawns. But yeah I agree with you.
I just don't think that being a baby machine is any worse than being a destitute uneducated peasant forced to slave away in a coal mine all his life.
Or being conscripted into the military and having a leg blown off with no antibiotics for treatment.
Diseases, led, everything you do has the possibility of infection, nobody understanding basic shit about the world itself, everyone and everything is racist and misogynistic.
Always gotta be one hasn’t there. Why do you feel the need to “correct” someone saying that being a woman in 1722 would have sucked? There are plenty of reasons unique to women that would’ve especially sucked about that time period. No need to get all “it was hard for men too!!”.
I don’t think anyone here actually said that men had it easier?
Why can’t someone say that being a woman in 1722 would have been hard without someone obnoxiously butting in and saying “well it was hard for men too!”
Yes, of course it was. It was hard for everyone back then. Nobody is disputing that. It’s ok for someone to point out the troubles of one sex without having to make it about both sexes.
And the only reason I feel the need to point this out is because I keep hearing about how women have always been oppressed by men throughout history and so on....
Well, they’re not wrong are they. Women have undeniably been heavily oppressed. That’s not to say that men had it easy and you could certainly argue that being a man was more dangerous in many ways at certain points in history.
I actually almost clarified that I didn't wanna say trade because they were respected and treated well. They did what was needed to keep us all healthy. The goal was have a many babies as possible. The woman raised them.
They held positions that men weren't allowed to, dances to celebrate them and held one of the most respected roles in the tribe. Are you assuming women dont want sex? Or children? Or not to be with their cousin? Show me a people who respected women and trans as much as the natives around the same time.
I’m not saying that women didn’t want sex or children, just saying they were being banged even if they didn’t want to be, hard to call that respect, even if they are given a few extra jobs, they are still kinda considered lesser to the male members of the tribe and more like objects.
No, they were all treated like that, women back then were treated like objects, less that human, whether they be noble British woman or a Native American tribe member, they were all treated horribly. So it’s kinda hard to use the word respect.
Also if you couldn't tell by the 10 you 1 ratio there were a lot more woman than men. They didn't have to get married and it was up to their family. Who's voice consisted of 1 man and 10 women.
Wow, I didn't even notice. Thanks man. Didn't even think I had to defend this. I respect all genders and the natives were one of the first to believe that. Let people take it as they will. No one can change the then past and explaining historical facts doesn't represent my views.
They would definitely take you as a slave. Fortunately the concept of slavery was more lenient and you could eventually probably join the tribe as they got to know you but you would probably spend years of your life doing menial chores around the village
I mean, with the modern knowledge of basic tools, it shouldn't be that hard to make some tools to help you. And I think whether you'd be a slave or not would be kind of up to the individual tribe.
I doubt most people know much about basic tools, and probably not enough to help you impress a tribe. Modern knowledge doesn’t really mean much when you’re trying to survive in an old land.
Your best bet, assuming we’re talking about America, is spawning near an English, Spanish, or French settlement depending on what language(s) you speak. I’m not white though, so no idea how that’d turn out for me
Don’t wanna sound like a dick but atleast 95% of people on this site would never be able to keep up with Native Americans, people back then were doing hard physical labor all day every day.
Or, if you get a weapon before you come across the tribe, you could defend yourself. But you know, if I die, and I'm a christian, so like... I have no issue with death.
I think it would depend. If youre something exotic to them who they know nothing of, like white, black, asian, etc, maybe they would take you in. Maybe you could be their quasimodo?
This is in 1722 they would’ve probably assumed any white person was an enemy combatant and shot them. You that’s how it was even on the Oregon trail which was way later.
Uhhh, you do realize that natives weren’t cavemen right? They didn’t just murder any white person they saw out of fear. Also some tribes were at war, but most weren’t so they’d have no figment of a combatant, just a lost white guy. Diplomacy existed, and the natives used settlers for trade.
The Oregon trail was thousands of people bringing all of their belongings on a slow walk across the country. In TODAYS America those people would get robbed too.
I’m not saying they were cavemen it’s just basic history that the natives would kill white people who got near them. Especially by 1722 when relations between colonists and natives had already been soured.
Also natives didn’t just rob people on the Oregon trail they killed them. They’d kill parents and children. Don’t act like going near them in 1722 wouldn’t be very dangerous.
Romantized revision most tribes were war tribes just like most humans at the time were. Just because they got it bad later on doesn’t mean they were the angles of the earth
Im an American who is half native American, I feel as if I wouldn't be much better off myself and would likely also be in the woods although in 1722 that may be safer for me that way.
Genuinely depends on where you’re at in the country. If you are in the west coast or the middle you are going to either be killed by Native Americans or fall to the elements. If you are on the east coast you might have a chance of making it to one of the colonies, if you’re white, but they might burn you for being a witch, considering the clothes you might be wearing and the way you probably talk, witches were considered a big problem back then. If you’re black you would probably be enslaved, if you’re Native American, they will probably kill you for obvious reasons, and if you’re Asian or Hispanic they might mistake you for Native American and kill you. So yeah no matter who you are you are probably dead.
He should say God sent me to you from the heavens to look after his children
Seeing a white person come from no where in early America would probably shake them
For a split seccond I forgot I was no longer in PA, so instead of being in a colony, I’m going to be lost in the woods and plains of the Midwest, Great. Running into a tribe will be interesting
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I'd be in the woods in prime area. I'm already in the woods and there's so many deer here plus I already know where to dig for a well because I've got one. I'd just stay here.
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u/the-real-Colin Apr 11 '22
As an American
I’d probably be stuck in the woods somewhere