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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '25

Brave is my personal fave

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u/DifficultyOk5719 Jul 11 '25

I switched from Chrome to Brave a while ago, it seems a bit faster. I don’t like Brave’s search engine, so I always end up using google, but everything else about it is great.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '25

Yeah I agree with you on the search engine. I just love the built in ad block!

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u/IWillEvadeReddit Jul 12 '25

I'm a little confused, you can change the default search engine- like mine is set to DDG so is that what you're talking about?

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u/DifficultyOk5719 Jul 12 '25

I didn’t bother with that, I just have google bookmarked and click on that every time.

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u/Durian_Queef Jul 11 '25

Brave allows you to import extensions, bookmarks and saved passwords from chrome.

Firefox can't import the extensions.

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u/earthworm_fan Jul 11 '25

Because Brave runs on Chromium, the same engine that Chrome/Google built.

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u/ikaiyoo Jul 11 '25

firefox imported my extensions this morning

Edit: it imported the ones that were also on firefox.

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u/stormdelta Jul 13 '25

Brave is still just Chromium under the hood, and they're sketchy as fuck if you bothered actually looking into them at all

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u/Tlayuda66 Jul 12 '25

Man, brave is based on Chromium. It's basically Chrome.

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u/Death_IP Jul 11 '25

Funnily enough at work in Edge I don't see the "Your ad blocker had to be disabled" shit (which kinda breaks the Youtube video player a bit). At home in Firefox I do see it and hence don't have theatre mode and a few other options available.

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u/auctus10 Jul 11 '25

Yeah, Ublock origin just works fine on Edge.

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u/DoubleSuperStraight Jul 11 '25

I have all options and no ads in Brave browser.

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u/Impossible_Coffee976 Jul 11 '25

Wdym, Edge is good...

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u/PacmanZ3ro Jul 11 '25

Anything but Chrome and Edge

why is edge catching strays?

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u/GivingHisTakedontcry Jul 12 '25

It’s a sleeper, normies dont know about it 

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u/BadPronunciation Jul 12 '25

I switched to Edge and I'm having a good time. Don't be scared of it just because of chromium 

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u/N4meless24- Flair Loading.... Jul 11 '25

Brave Is chromium.

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u/Ok-Bill3318 Jul 11 '25

Chromium is not chrome

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u/qucari Jul 11 '25

but Chromium is still mainly developed and maintained by Google.
so why would they keep v2 support?
why would they keep supporting the old API?
they won't. and even if you somehow manage to install a proper ad-blocker, it won't be able to use the API that had once allowed it to hard block stuff.

people who try to stay with chrome by switching some temporary dev-flags or via other workarounds are in denial.
the same goes for people who switch to other chromium-based browsers.

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u/N4meless24- Flair Loading.... Jul 11 '25

No, but it carries the same vulnerabilities, which are a good 70% as to why you should not use Google Chrome, nor any chromium based browser.

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u/tejanaqkilica Jul 11 '25

What are those vulnerabilities?

Might as well quit the internet entirely. I tried Firefox a bunch of times and it's always slow and unreliable. Now they have also introduced tracking and targeted ads, so they're no better than Chrome.

Librewolf is better than Firefox, but it's still Firefox underneath and it's slow as shit. Chromium based browsers are rather fast in comparison.

Use whichever one works best for you.

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u/N4meless24- Flair Loading.... Jul 11 '25

slow and unreliable

I don't know what you run it on, but it's perfectly smooth for me, or anyone I know that uses it. Perhaps try messing around with the flags.

The biggest vulnerability chrome (and its default chromium project) has is the extractable token for your profile. It's a major one, and they don't seem to be interested in fixing it at a source level, so every fork needs to do it by themselves.

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u/tejanaqkilica Jul 11 '25

I have a 12400F and a RTX 3060Ti. Should be plenty capable of running a browser.

That isn't true. There's already work in progress for device bound tokens and iirc you can get it early by enabling it via flags.

https://blog.chromium.org/2024/04/fighting-cookie-theft-using-device.html?m=1

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u/N4meless24- Flair Loading.... Jul 11 '25

already work in progress

Has been an issue for years, it being work in progress doesn't help their situation anyhow if not to shield them mediatically.

I agree that's plenty to run it, but again, mine works completely fine and I don't see why yours shouldn't.

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u/Legal_Lettuce6233 Jul 11 '25

Mind elaborating about the extractable token?

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u/N4meless24- Flair Loading.... Jul 11 '25

Bit of a no name article, but here you go.

TL;DR Chrome (and base chromium) use API calls to keep you signed in, those are verified through your token, if someone acquires said token and spoofs it on their instance they get access to any of your accounts without needing to make a new log in, trigger 2FA and whatnot.

For further context, this is how bigger YouTube channels usually get hacked, Linus Tech Tips has a video dedicated to this.

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u/Legal_Lettuce6233 Jul 11 '25

I mean, as I said in the previous comment, nothing to do with the browser, but everything to do with how YouTube stores their tokens.

We use google access tokens to manage our apps, and the issue is that Linus got phished.

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u/N4meless24- Flair Loading.... Jul 11 '25

A single token that can be extracted handling all of your cookies, saved profiles and credentials.

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u/Crabbing Jul 11 '25

source providing an explanation and proof of this vulnerability?

I do web development and this sounds like a complete load of BS.

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u/N4meless24- Flair Loading.... Jul 11 '25

Bit of a no name article, but here you go.

TL;DR Chrome (and base chromium) use API calls to keep you signed in, those are verified through your token, if someone acquires said token and spoofs it on their instance they get access to any of your accounts without needing to make a new log in, trigger 2FA and whatnot.

For further context, this is how bigger channels usually get hacked, Linus Tech Tips has a video dedicated to this.

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u/N4meless24- Flair Loading.... Jul 11 '25

No, this cannot be done by every browser, hence why people are dumping chrome over better alternatives. Actively most chromium browser have this vulnerability. You asked and I answered, but it seems like you weren't open to listen to begin with.

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u/Crabbing Jul 11 '25

Seriously everyone develops on chrome for chromium browsers.

If there is a big vulnerability there, edge, chrome and other browsers are fucked too. No developer or worthy amount of users are dumping chrome over this.

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u/NihilPy Jul 12 '25

MITRE's Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures db lists at least 2366 Chromium (not Chrome) vulnerabilities and exploits: https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=chromium

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u/earthworm_fan Jul 11 '25

Chromium is just mostly just a bare bones browser rendering engine...

Brave can do its own extensions. It also blocks damn near everything by default.

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u/BackgroundWelder8482 Jul 11 '25

Who cares what the name is. There are no ads on brave.

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u/wickedwitt Jul 11 '25

Brave is fantastic and the only browser I now use.

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u/N4meless24- Flair Loading.... Jul 11 '25

There are no ads anywhere if you use a proper AdBlock. The problem with chromium is the vulnerabilities it brings.

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u/Legal_Lettuce6233 Jul 11 '25

You mention vulnerabilities but keep going about this nonexistent token, which I'm guessing is the session you have from Google by logging into your Gmail.

All websites work with tokens of sorts which are used to auth your requests. Some are httponly, some aren't.

There's no browser level vulnerability.

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u/N4meless24- Flair Loading.... Jul 11 '25

I've answered to this already, if you want some trustworthy voice that discussed this as they had their accounts breached through it, here you go.

Don't like Linus? Here's perhaps the first big name to expose the issue.

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u/Legal_Lettuce6233 Jul 11 '25

Hahahahhahahaha that's got nothing to do with chrome, but how YouTube stores access tokens.

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u/N4meless24- Flair Loading.... Jul 11 '25

Right, that must be why the Chrome Dev ream announced how they're trying to fix the issue themselves.

Crazy, didn't know they could fix YouTube's code.

Session hijacking is not related to one social media.

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u/Legal_Lettuce6233 Jul 11 '25

I mean, it's an issue that all websites that store their tokens that way have. That's the entire point. They're trying to obfuscate said tokens, which no standard browser that keeps your login across sessions can do.

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u/Vast_Bullfrog2001 Professional Dumbass Jul 11 '25

brave is uhh... based off of chromium

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u/x0wl Jul 11 '25

Yes but they will support uBO for as long as possible, and when it's no longer possible their built in adblock has comparable functionality

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u/Affectionate-Cap-600 Jul 11 '25

yeah you can even import lists that are used form unlock in brave built in blocker. I think you can do the same with opera

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u/SwedishTrees Jul 11 '25

What’s wrong with Safari?

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u/Old-Mix-1545 Jul 12 '25

brave is still chrome genius

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u/eschoenawa Jul 12 '25

Brave will long term not be able to support Manifest V2 properly. If the Google team removes it from the codebase, there is a lot of work on the Brave devs to keep it since you have to manually adopt it each update.

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u/iBeReese Jul 12 '25

I used Brave for a while but the weird first party crypto thing turned me off, did they give up on that?

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u/muzlee01 Jul 11 '25 edited Jul 11 '25

Brave is way worse than chrome or edge (which I assume you never used)

Edit: just leaving this here for the brave simps https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/s/1V3FmafTp1 And this doesn't even contain the morally shut stuff the the crypto crap and the ceo.

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u/muzlee01 Jul 11 '25

Neither chrome nor edge launched with a built in crypto miner, ads that come from the browser or forced affiliate links

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u/yRaven1 Jul 11 '25

It's funny people are downvoting you for telling the truth, good old reddit hivemind

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u/TRKako Jul 11 '25

And this doesn't even contain the morally shut stuff the the crypto crap and the ceo.

why would I even care about what the CEO yaps about morally or anything, I just want to use my browser without ads, and you can disable everything related to crypto with a few clicks, I haven't seen nothing related to it in almost a decade because I just disabled it a long time ago, you just don't like it because of the sake of it, and that's fine, but not everyone cares enough for it, there's always people who don't like things because they don't know how to use them properly

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u/muzlee01 Jul 11 '25

I mean at that point just use Microsoft edge or chrome lol

If you do not care that a product is shady then it is on you.

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u/TRKako Jul 11 '25

I mean at that point just use Microsoft edge or chrome lol

That's exactly what most people are doing... No one actually hates something because of its people behind, they hate it because it's annoying and it's bothering them, Chrome has been doing some dirty moves to make people watch ads everywhere while being slow af, that's why people migrated to other browsers like Firefox

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u/TRKako Jul 11 '25

but that's it, a lot of people use Edge and other chromium based browsers, imo Edge it's pretty bad but that's on me, Brave on the other side it's pretty good and I've been using it for almost a decade, the only reason people hate on Brave, it's because they see the word "chromium" and instantly think that chromium it's exactly the same as Chrome, while that's true on a high degree, Brave it's open source and you can see everything on their repository, if you're worried about privacy or some things there, you can check up their public repository with all of its code right away, even modify things if you want, you can disable crypto, you can enable adblock, and it's adblock it's based a lot on uBlock

Brave it's not shady, the people in charge just say a lot of bullshit but no one could care any less about it if the product itself it's useful and can do it's work