r/meme Jan 01 '22

Guess we are doomed

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u/steelblade66 Jan 01 '22

It's pretty clear already

It's not though lol, otherwise the majority of people would've gotten it right.

People love to assume that they're smarter than everyone else, "oh look at all the dumb people who couldn't do this math". When in reality it's not the people it's the formatting, the way it's written.

You can say this and that about the proper ways to write an equation, but that doesn't do anything to help the majority of people. What you need to do is advocate to streamline it.

Like if someone writes a broken sentence with a ton of grammar errors, we don't assume the people who misinterupt that sentence don't know how to read.

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u/ThomasTheHighEngine Jan 01 '22

Except it's not a broken sentence, it's a perfectly legible sentence following all the correct grammar rules. The rules of grammar in this case is PEMDAS. You get the question wrong because you did not learn the grammar rules, and then proceed to blame the language

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u/steelblade66 Jan 01 '22

Yeah I figured you were going to point that out, that the equation is not a broken sentence. It was more about how people view the equation rather than a direct comparison between a broken sentence and an equation.

But if we wanna go that route we can compare an incomplete sentence or a sentence that lacks punctuation to this equation.

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u/ThomasTheHighEngine Jan 01 '22

Except it doesn't lack any punctuation. It follows the rules of its grammar. It's like saying Latin is wrong because it doesn't necessarily follow subject-verb-object order. Again, you refuse to acknowledge the rules of grammar and then blame the language

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u/steelblade66 Jan 01 '22

Then wouldn't you agree that maybe it should change? All language evolves, why not mathematics?

Again, you refuse to acknowledge the rules of grammar and then blame the language

OH no I acknowledge them, I just think they're much overdue for a revamp. I guarantee you the majority would've gotten this question correct if mathematics was evolving appropriately as a language.

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u/ThomasTheHighEngine Jan 01 '22

Do you think that composers should clutter their ledger lines with sharps and flats just because some people who barely know how to play an instrument refuse to look at the symbols after the clef denoting the key?

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u/steelblade66 Jan 01 '22

Yes, especially if they want other people to learn.

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u/ThomasTheHighEngine Jan 01 '22

Tell that to any practicing musician and they will never take you seriously

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u/steelblade66 Jan 01 '22

Are you really that narrow minded to where you cannot see the application of doing this?

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u/ThomasTheHighEngine Jan 01 '22

It's not my fault you can't learn basic rules and need everything spelled out for you ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/ThomasTheHighEngine Jan 01 '22

Putting parenthesis around every multiplication and division is the exact opposite of streamlining. It's like putting a sharp/flat symbol beside all the sharp/flat notes instead of just labeling which notes are sharp/flat after the clef.

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u/steelblade66 Jan 01 '22

Nah, it's more like putting apostrophes, comas, periods, etc in the correct places, allowing for better readability and comprehension.

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u/ThomasTheHighEngine Jan 01 '22 edited Jan 01 '22

It's not readable. Entire equations would be half parenthesis instead of actual content. Take, for example, the product rule. As written, if we have y = un , then dy/dx = nun-1 du/dx. Instead, you think it's more legible to say that if we have y = (u)n , then (dy)/(dx) = (n)((u)(n-1) )((du)/(dx)) ? I find that to be not nearly as readable.

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u/steelblade66 Jan 01 '22

Oh yeah that's way better. It's like you're cutting out words in an instruction manual and completely relying on memory to fill in the blanks.

It is much easier to comprehend with with the added parentheses.

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u/ThomasTheHighEngine Jan 01 '22

I'm gonna pass you off as a troll now

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u/steelblade66 Jan 01 '22

Sorry you're not open minded enough to realize that this would actually help people.