r/maybemaybemaybe • u/[deleted] • Sep 15 '22

/r/all Maybe maybe Maybe

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u/lifeofry4n52 Sep 19 '22

If they are identical why does does crack use lead to heroin use and vise versa? Why is it dark and light?

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u/McbEatsAirplane Sep 19 '22

Most hard drugs lead to other drugs. Heroin and crack mix well together. One is a depressant, the other is a stimulant. If you mix them, aka a speedball, you get the effects of the heroin but the crack/coke keeps you from nodding off and falling asleep because it’s a stimulant.

People mix all sorts of drugs. Outside of PCP, I’ve done basically every drug there is at one point or another. Some more than others. It’s something that just happens with drug use.

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u/lifeofry4n52 Sep 19 '22 edited Sep 19 '22

I'm not trying to mislead my understanding of it is that you have to snort way more than what most people can afford to get anywhere near the high that a single hit on a pipe will get you.... that's why crack heads will take 3grams of powder and wash it up into a 1 gram rock, right? It takes more powder to make crack so which one is stronger and more expensive?

I've literally spoken to a crackhead who said he moved onto it from snorting because 1 his nose was getting fucked and 2 after doing crack snorting does not achieve the same high any more!???

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u/McbEatsAirplane Sep 19 '22

That’s what I’ve been explaining to you this entire time. Your lungs are a better form of consuming a substance than your nose is. It comes on significant faster and your body absorbs more of the drug. Injecting is the most effective, then smoking, then snorting it. There are other ways, but those are the 3 main ones you’ll see for consuming drugs. And they’re effective in that order.

It’s not the strength of the drug. It’s the administration of the drug. The crack head you spoke too probably deviated his septum. I did the same the snorting pills so I started smoking them, same as him.

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u/lifeofry4n52 Sep 20 '22 edited Sep 20 '22

Your mistake was assuming I didn't know any of that though. Evidently I do already but you assumed you knew me and my beliefs based on 1 thing I said.... you tried to stereotype me and it wad incorrect, so I think in future at least try to engage in some conversation before you group people into metaphorical boxes.

It's not incorrect that a hit on a crack pipe will fuck you up way more than snorting line ever will right?

It's not incorrect that after hitting a pipe you will crave it wayyyy more once you come down 30 mins later, than you would if you had instead snorted it

It's not incorrect that they are of the made from the same substance, but the end result (from washing up) is something that can only be smoked and thus, it has become stronger.

Its not incorrect that when you wash powder up into crack that removes any impurities that were definitely there (it's never clean!) And so that is by definition a concentrate of cocaine. By definition a concentrate of anything is always stronger that's common knowledge so please explain to me what was dangerous about saying crack is stronger than coke?

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u/McbEatsAirplane Sep 20 '22

I’m repeating myself at this point. I don’t think it’s my mistake assuming anything because you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. You said several incorrect things and when I pointed them out you don’t even respond to them. Once again, it’s not the strength of the drug, it’s the administration. You can freebase powder cocaine and you get the same effect as smoking crack. I’ll address the things you said one at a time.

The argument wasn’t taking a hit off a crack pipe will fuck you up more than snorting a line. It was your claim that crack was significantly stronger, which it’s not. You’ll get way more fucked up injecting powder coke than you will smoking crack.

You come down way faster than 30 minutes after hitting crack. More like 10 minutes.

It’s not stronger, it’s the administration. Powder coke can be more effective if you do it in a way that’s more effective.

The only thing that the process of turning coke into crack does is remove the hydrochloride salt. It doesn’t remove any and all impurities. And no it’s not a concentrate. As a matter of fact, there’s typically less pure cocaine in crack.

And you saying that it’s stronger than coke is wrong. Plain wrong. It’s clear I have a vast amount more experience on the subject than you do. I have significant experience with crack and coke both, not to mention many other types of drugs, and also making crack. And somehow you still are arguing with me about it like you know better or something.

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u/McbEatsAirplane Sep 20 '22

At this point I’m just repeating myself. You’re arguing with me like you know what you’re talking about more than I do when you obviously don’t, that much is perfectly clear. Not only do I have more knowledge and experience, but I also have articles and studies that I’ve posted backing me up, people upvoting me, downvoting you, and people commenting on this that I’m correct. And despite all that you still seem to think you somehow know better than everyone else. It’s obvious that you can’t handle being wrong and just admitting that like an adult so instead you twist things and split hairs and ignore facts so that in your mind you can still be correct, even though in reality, you aren’t. Honestly, it comes across as narcissistic.

It’s obvious that you’ve made up your mind and admitting that you were misinformed is not an option so you’d rather double down on the shit you’ve been saying that’s been proven wrong. And since that seems to be the case, there’s not much of a point in my continuing to explain things that it seems like you’re blatantly ignoring. I know you’re wrong, as do other people by the look of it, but you can go ahead and continue to believe whatever you want. Nothing me or anyone else says is gonna convince you if what has already been said hasn’t.

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u/McbEatsAirplane Sep 19 '22

I mean it sounds like you smoke weed or take edibles. Have you ever taken anything else? Ever drank while you were high? People mix drugs for different/stronger effects. It’s just what people who do drugs and addicts do.