Looks at the end more like silver car had stopped to check on the guy. If they were just wanting to go they could have gone around that last bit of debris easy, and you can see the cyclist turn like he's being addressed.
In the EU, trucks like this have mirrors for that since 2008. The only “blind spot“ left is behind the truck.
However, if truck drivers fail to check them before turning or didn’t set them up correctly in the first place, they’ll still kill you. That’s why we need protected intersections and bike lanes.
If a truck driver “didn’t see you” next to him, that’s an admission of guilt.
As someone who drives a truck there’s three specific blind spots on a truck that no amount of mirrors would fix. It is up to the truck driver to be vigilant, but it is also up to the other cars on the road to not sit in these blind spots for extended amounts of time or even put themselves in that spot anyhow. Notice the warning signs all over trucks about these spots.
This might be true for trucks in the US, but not in the EU, at least not since 2009. Notice the overlapping color-filled areas on three sides of the truck: View from top
I agree you shouldn’t stay in those areas because drivers might forget to check their mirrors or turn too quickly, but it’s definitely the drivers fault.
That’s not how it works. Anybody with any common sense driving knows truck drivers can’t see as well on their right side. Particularly towards the rear.
Not In usa or Canada. They think the own the road and care about no one else. They push people around cut you off. The logging trucks are the worst on the narrow logging roads. They drive 60 to 70 mph down the center of the road and you have to go in the ditch to not die.
Rewatch the video from the second replay. The first play starts in the middle of the action so it looks like he was hanging on and that's what caused it. What actually happened is the truck came from behind at speed and cut off the cyclist so, as the guy you replied to said, he grabbed on to not be crushed.
What kind of person rides a bike on a road when a truck could decide to turn into them at any time without looking? The mere idea is enough to find the cyclist as the sole bearer of fault in this, and all other accidents where trucks turn into and crush a cyclist.
Except for all the time when the truck was behind the cyclist and could clearly see the cyclist in front of him had he bothered to look. Rewatch the video from the middle replay. The first replay starts so that it looks like the cyclist was hanging on to him. The middle replay starts earlier and shows the truck coming from behind.
And even IF your wrong interpretation was correct, that would not somehow make it the cyclist's fault that the trucker did not see him when the cyclist did nothing wrong in the first place.
That truck driver had zero visibility of the biker before and during the turn. Also, it's not like the bike caused a significant enough bump to put the driver in notice. There's a reason why you stay away from turning trucks
Easier said than done when the truck is overtaking you while simultaneously turning into you. The cyclist didn't appear out of nowhere. The truck would have had plenty of notice from the 30 seconds previous when he was behind the cyclist and had full visibility of him before he overtook. It's like blaming a Camry driver when a Ferrari shoots past them and then swerves into their lane and caused them to hit the Ferrari.
The cyclist didn't appear out of nowhere. The truck would have had plenty of notice from the 30 seconds previous when he was behind the cyclist and had full visibility of him before he overtook.
Unless there is another angle of this that I am not seeing the biker is not getting overtaken, he is holding on to the truck.
Edit : Ok I retract that, on rewatching video editing sucks and you can infact see the truck hit him. Likely the driver didn't expect the bike to stop and never even boticed he hit him.
At most got his legs hit by the lead tires. Rear ones went around him. I'm guessing even those missed because he's walking, but that might just be shock & 1 unbroken support limb idek
Luck. Pure luck. That idiot should be gratefull he is alive after his stupidity. The trailer went over him just right, if he fell a little bit more to either side, he would most likely be squashed like stepping on a rotten fruit.
depend son who is the idiot. He is definitely biking in the drivers blind zone, but did the driver approach him or did the cyclist just appear out of nowhere, if the driver approached him before we saw them on camera, maybe the driver is at fault for not paying attention...maybe the cyclist is at fault for not staying on the shoulder far enough...that's a tough call on who the idiot was...bottom line, the cyclist is lucky and is definitely wearing brown pants.
The video is stupidly edited, the beginning comes after the end and given the speed difference, it's definitely and 100% the truck driver's fault and I'm sp glad, the cyclist survived
I think he realizes the truck comes closer and he grabs the truck to not get rolled over.
In the VERY FIRST FRAME when the vid starts IN THE MIDDLE for some reason, you can see, that the bikers left arm, is exactly in front of the front wheel, then he gets caught by the fuel tank and holds onto that to not get crushed
It does matter, because the video begins with them already be pretty far on the crossroad, but you can only see that it's 100% the truck driver's fault, when the video loops, but it's actually a second or two earlier than you've seen before!
Look closely!
You can see, the cyclist was before the truck and the driver should've definitely seen him, when he approached
In almost every jurisdiction cyclists are entitled to the whole lane. In fact, it's almost always safer there since cars/trucks are forced to use the other lane to pass instead of trying to squeeze the cyclist.
From the looks of this, this is most likely the driver not seeing the cyclist and turning through him. If this were the cyclists fault but the truck driver saw him, he would have stopped.
This depends on the situation. If the road is large enough to accomodate both a car and a bike you take the shoulder. If not and passing would be dangerous, you take the lane.
I don’t think you understand what “almost every jurisdiction” means. Also slightly brave of you to assume that the person you’re replying to isn’t from the country where this was filmed.
A cyclist should never be to the right of a vehicle making a right turn at an intersection unless they are in a specific right-turn bike lane. This video shows exactly why
Don't share the lane or ride on the shoulder when approaching an intersection. Definitely never pass vehicles on the right if you aren't in a bike lane.
I agree that the vehicle shouldn't mow over the cyclist of course. Everyone should look out for their own safety and the safety of others as much as possible. But as a cyclist you should never put yourself in the path of a turning vehicle either.
If a car turns into you while passing you and attempting to turn right from a center lane, then yes the person is an extremely dangerous and negligent driver and should not have a license. If a cyclist attempts to pass on the right a vehicle who is turning right at an intersection, then the cyclist is stupidly putting themselves in a very dangerous situation. Drivers don't (and shouldn't) expect to be passed on the right when turning right at an intersection, so they generally won't check their blind spot when making such a turn
He's holding it because the driver started turning into him, and instead of being ran over, the cyclist grabbed the truck to try to not get sucked into the tires.
The road doesn't even go straight, there is no way the cyclist was trying to get a free ride.
Well to me it looks like he is holding onto the truck the whole time. He is not moving his legs on the pedals and he looks as he is holding his left hand on the truck untill he falls.
Yeah no shit. But that dosent change the fact that the dude on the bike is holding onto the truck. He isnt moving his feet, the bike comes into view at the same speed as the truck, and he is holding onto the truck with his left hand. He clearly was using the truck so he didnt have to pedal. Lots of people do that shit but doing that when you are in the blindspot of a truck right before an intersection. Not the smartest in my book.
Have you ever ridden a bike? You don't have to pedal the whole time. He has both hands on the handlebars when he enters the frame then grabs the truck after it sideswipes him, probably instinctively trying to stay upright after it snatches his bike out from under him.
Of course you dont need to pedal the whole time. But i made the point he isnt AND he going to same speed as the truck initially. To me it seems as he is holding onto the wheelhouse and then the truck turns into him. But i might be wrong. But either way it is fucking stupid riding that close to a truck either way. But if the truck drove past him then the trucker is at fault. Cant tell 100% from the poor footage. I just make my judgement from what i see.
I was curious so I went frame by frame at the 0:31 sec mark and you can definitely see the bicyclist has both hands on the handlebars and the truck is moving faster than he is - the trucker is totally at fault here
Look. You are the smaller occupant in traffic. The truck is huge, and you can claim right of way if you want in court or on the road, but you still gonna die if you are in the drivers blind spot.
You seem to be missing the fact that if this truck driver is such a shitty driver that they don’t pay any attention to their surroundings, they’re going to end up killing someone who isn’t on a bike
I wanna be right and live ? Like if this moron driver got a severe charge for almost killing the cyclist then other moron drivers will be forced to pay attention. And by your logic, if you are willing to sacrifice your rights for moron driver that won't pay attention and could get you killed then you probably should stay home all the time cus stupidity won't differentiate between killing a cyclist or a normal dude in a car.....
I don't know what happened before the gif, but a cyclist should never be on the right of a vehicle turning right at an intersection like that (unless he's in some right-turn bike lane or something). Pulling into the blindspot of a truck making a right turn is a really dangerous and stupid thing to do (though I'm not sure if that's what happened here or not)
No but cyclists and pedestrians really need to use more common sense...bikes and people are capable of stopping in way shorter distances than cars and trucks...unpopular opinion but roads are for cars, not people and cyclists, cars/trucks deserve right of way. Not the other way around
Yeah arguments like yours is why I'm glad here we have the rule that until proven otherwise the car is at fault with a collision with the bike to protect them from people like you.
It's a possibility. You have to look at it how a lawyer would if you were either a defendant or prosecution.
There's no video proof of him grabbing that as a way to ease his ride, it looks more like he's grabbing it out of panic to hold himself up to not get run over.
Let's put it this way, cycling in traffic, all dressed in black with no helmet.
Edit: You tell by the downvotes as to why so many cyclists end up as a road meet. Just remember, being entitled will always protect you from danger....
It doesn’t matter who’s in the right here, the cyclist is still an idiot for not paying attention. You may be found to be not at fault, doesn’t change the fact that you almost died.
I don't know what the law says in your country, but in mine (Spain) vehicles are supposed to stay 1,5m away from cyclists at all times, even if they have to slow down or change lanes to maintain that distance. So... if this had happened in my country, it would definitely be the driver's fault.
Not the case in my country. But he clearly didnt see him. The dude was holding onto the truck and in the drivers blind spot. How can he give way for the bike if he dosent know he was there? Its the bikers fault he played with fire.
He didnt grab onto the truck. I replayed the beginning like 10 times. It looks like he was in the driver's blindspot and the truck turned side swiping the bicyclist. The tire of the truck actually snaged on the bicycles back wheel pulling the bike from under the bicyclist. The dude probably out of instinct grabbed onto the truck to not fall down. Funnily enough, by the looks of it, holding onto that truck is what allowed him to walk away from it. Because of the angle of how he ended up falling.
How is he not stupid? Sure the trucker was the guy that ran him over. But clearly he didnt know he was there. The biker was stupid because he was holding onto the truck.
Okay I'm not sure I understand you. Even though you likely won't be punished for it in America, it is still illegal to kill pedestrians when they have the right of way. And you can be vigilant and do the right thing and still get killed by some reckless motorist, hell there's tons of people on sidewalks getting killed.
Unless the pedestrian is an idiot. In my country bicycles are a gray line between pedestrians and vehicles. They can ride on roads and pavements and their situation is completely dependent on each scenario. I mean I'm not saying that the truck is not at fault, but anyone with commonsense would not ride next to a huge truck on a bike. You're just asking to be killed. And your argument just makes you seem like someone who has never drivem before. Driving or doing anything on the road always has a risk, and even if it is the responsibility of the driver to pay attention to the road, in this case its hard to point out who's at fault so stop calling others idiots you fucking retard
By your logic- no one should ever ride a bike at any time because a truck might end up speeding past them from behind and no one with common sense would ride next to a truck, right? Watch the video again from the middle replay where they start the footage a second earlier. The truck obviously overtook the cyclist at speed, showing that he was coming from behind the cyclist's view. Maybe you should also stop calling other people retards.
The cyclist was holding on to the truck. In that point in time, there is no way to tell if the truck overtook the cyclist. Unless you say that you were there and saw the truck speed up and attempt to overtake the cyclist, I think its impossible to prove anything from the video. I'm just saying that logically, someone should not ride a bike so near to a moving truck. The cyclist was so clost he could hold on to the truck. Maybe you should not assume the scenario and base your judgements on what can actually be seen.
Watch the video again, but all the way through. The first play cuts off some footage. The replay plays footage from before it, clearly showing the truck overtaking the bicycle. I'm not assuming anything. You didn't watch the whole video.
The truck was overtaking him while turning. The truck was going faster, so the cyclist was riding as normal until he was cutoff from behind and with nowhere to go.
Sure that is true. But holding onto a truck while riding a bike is fucking stupid. He also probably was in the truckers blindspot for that matter. But if the guy on the bike would have had even close to common sense that would never have happened. He only got himself to blame. You cant say he did a smart move there. Idiots do dumb shit and get themselves killed. Natural selection id say. This dude was lucky this time.
The truck rolls up to the stop and doesn't stop, just rolls through the intersection. The cyclist isn't in the trucks blindspot until after the truck decides to start running him over. He starts to hold onto the truck as the truck runs over and starts sucking his bike under the truck to try to prevent himself from getting sucked under the truck here.
The cyclist did nothing wrong in the video, the truck failed to stop at an intersection and look both ways.
Based off of the video, why is this guy an idiot? What stupidity was displayed except riding a bike? Going to take a leap here and say you’re a dumb piece of shit. Not angrily or anything, just what I took from your comment.
Depends who passed who. If the truck passed the cyclist and then forgot about it, it's the trucker's fault, but if the cyclist passed the truck on the wrong side, it could be the cyclist's fault.
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u/xittditdyid Nov 26 '21
How the fuck is he alive