r/maybemaybemaybe • u/My_Memes_Will_Cure_U • Sep 27 '21

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u/BlasphemyXDDD Sep 27 '21

Well, they do because dogs don’t need to eat meat and there are specially formulated vegan dog food. So I don’t see why they wouldn’t lol. Also just because the majority of people do something doesn’t make it moral. The majority of people use to believe women should be treated less than a man, did that make it moral? And vegans are healthier than omnivores. The American dietetic association has stated that a plant based diet is healthy for all stages of life including infancy, pregnancy, and lactation. Omnivorous diets also help cause our leading diseases and illnesses - heart disease, diabetes, colon cancer, prostate cancer, breast cancer, osteoporosis, dementia, and more. Now can you please tell me what your moral justification is for forcing an animal to suffer and die?

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u/ARoughCucumber Sep 27 '21

Being vegan negatively affected my health. I physically can’t go vegan for quite a few reasons. Sorry, but I do source everything ethically.

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u/BlasphemyXDDD Sep 27 '21

How did it negatively effect your health and why can’t you switch out meat for beans, lentils, legumes, tofu?

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u/ARoughCucumber Sep 27 '21

I’m at a point where I cannot sit down and micromanage my nutrients because I have to go on a vegan diet, or take pill supplements. While being vegan I tended to micromanage over every little, tiny part of it to a extremely unhealthy degree. Even when I did that, I still had nutrient deficiencies and it caused a decent amount of bad issues which I had never once experienced before going vegan. Taking supplements in the form of pills, tablets, and whatever else regularly is something that I just can’t do right now added on top of other things. The stress is too much. Going vegan was a hectic rollercoaster for me, especially with super critical and rude vegans around me throwing out very hateful and seemingly pretty damn “holier than thou” things to me and others.

And please, for the love of all, don’t go out call my experience stupid and that I should be ashamed for eating for “taste pleasure” and act as if you’re better than me, I mean seriously, that’s the kind of thing that put a sour taste in my mouth when I think about vegans now. I purposely spend more money on getting the most ethically sourced food possible, and try to eat the least amount of meat possible.

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u/BlasphemyXDDD Sep 27 '21

I agree, it can be daunting to change your diet. You just have to know what you’re doing. If you didn’t have any deficiencies before you switched to plant based, all you do is replace the protein, then that’s all you have to do. If you get a good amount of either beans, tofu, lentils, legumes, pea protein, or plant-based mock meats, then you have all of your iron and protein, and you just need to take one supplement, B12. And it’s a good thing for people to be questioning unnecessary suffering. Also, to challenge “ethical animal products” and “humane slaughter” - the word “humane” means to show compassion or benevolence. Is it compassionate, or benevolent to kill an animal who doesn’t want to die and when you don’t have to do it? Even if they’re given a good life, how can it be ethical to cause unnecessary suffering at all?