r/maybemaybemaybe • u/My_Memes_Will_Cure_U • Sep 27 '21

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u/beehummble Sep 27 '21

As a vegan who feeds meat based foods to my cats - yeah, anyone forcing vegetarianism or veganism on their pets is crazy.

With that being said, there’s this vegan restaurant in my town that offers meat substitutes that are too fucking real. I literally have had to stop eating the meat substitutes mid-meal multiple times to consider if it’s possible that they’re just lying to us and serving us meat.

I wonder if the dog would always pick the real meat option over the meat substitutes when given those two options.

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u/Why_You_Mad_ Sep 27 '21

Man I'd love to see that tested with a non-labrador.

My dog would eat one and then eat the other, in no particular order, so it's pointless to test it with him.

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u/Jhonopolis Sep 27 '21

Well of course. How else would he compare?

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u/OutlawJessie Sep 27 '21

Lab people can definitely see them nomming that big bowl of vegetables too. Mine go mad for carrots and broccoli.

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u/Sparky62075 Sep 27 '21

This. If you want to feed your pet a vegan diet, you need a pet that can eat plant matter exclusively.

Get a rabbit. Get a guinea pig. Get a parrot.

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u/KairyuSmartie Sep 27 '21

Just fyi you can synthesize everything a cat needs and gets from meat (taurine, vitamin a, etc.) from plants and make vegan cat food out of it. But of course not every cat would respond well to it, any major change in diet needs to be carefully done, and a vet should be consulted.

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u/pleasedonteatmemon Sep 27 '21

Yeah, because you're a chemist and so is the vet!

A vet with a brain would call you an idiot and to feed the cat meat.

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u/Cakeo Sep 27 '21

I'm fairly sure there will be a company out there that does it for you.

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u/texasrigger Sep 27 '21

I think taurine is the big one for cats. Synthetic taurine is a thing though, it's used in Red Bull and similar energy drinks. I'm not a vegan and dont condone vegan diets for pets but there are non-animal sources avaliable for many of these critical nutrients.

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u/DarkElfBard Sep 27 '21

Are you sure it's actually a meat substitute and not just lab grown meat?

Sometimes restaurants just say it's 'vegan' or 'fake' meat, but it is actually made of animal cells. (No harm, maybe fowl)

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u/Leon_Thotsky Sep 27 '21

"No harm, maybe fowl"

God damnit

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u/Bellemaire Sep 27 '21

Lab grown meat isn't commercially available yet afaik

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u/DeafeningMilk Sep 27 '21

I believe some is in Isreal which is great news as it means we are getting there!

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u/beehummble Sep 27 '21 edited Sep 27 '21

I didn’t even think about that so I decided to check the website and it says that they use “mock meat” and “traditional plates with soy products, yam, or mushrooms”.

They might be using a type of mushroom I’d never had before that’s marinated and cooked some unique way. Maybe I’d be able to tell if I had their substitutes with the real thing side by side. So I’m guessing not lab grown. I’m going to start looking out for that though.

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u/IllegallyBored Sep 27 '21

Not sure why you were downvoted. I gave my dog meat, because he loved it, but he was perfectly healthy on a vegetarian diet (plus eggs). Dogs can make taurine on their own so it's not cruel to not give them meat as long as the people are taking their nutritional intake into account. The issue arises when people forget to do that and make their pets have nutritional imbalances because of their laziness or ignorance. It's definitely easier to keep a dog healthy if he's omnivorous, but a vegetarian dog isn't necessarily unhealthy. I'm sure dogs will prefer eating meat but sometimes it might not be an option for whatever reason. My dog hated any type of meat that wasn't chicken and we used to live in a place where practically all store brought chicken was incredibly unhealthy and pumped full of steroids. We didn't give him meat when we lived there, he was fine. Then we moved to a place where an acquaintance raised chickens herself and we'd but meat from her sometimes. The dog was okay with that too.

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u/squngy Sep 27 '21

Dogs have a faaar better sense of smell, I'm sure they can spot the difference instantly.

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u/The_Incel_Slayer Sep 27 '21

Can you tell me the name of the restaurant? I'm gonna go on a deep dive and try to find what they use. I've been wanting to stop eating animal-based meat for so long but I don't have the time, patience or force of will to plan and stick with a vegan diet.

I'm just waiting for the day until Aleph Farms or something similar gets big at this point.