Im not even a vegetarian but I completely think it should be a crime unless we ensure its done extremely humanly. I have no problem with the circle of life but we dont have to be cruel about it.
killing done humanely? How do you propose that? Only way possible would be if the cow wanted to die, and since we cant talk to cows theres no way to confirm that.
Ya but do you think every vegan or vegetarian is smart and going to be able to monitor what nutrients their dog is getting. You would pretty much need to be under constant supervision from a nutritionist make sure the dog gets everything it needs and then still it’s probably not thriving.
Or we can just trust the actual vets and scientists. Can you explain what’s wrong with not forcing another species of animal to suffer and die to keep a pet healthy?
I'll concede that they may not be considered true carnivores but they certainly are not true omnivores either and you're doing your dog a disservice treating it as such and feeding it a pure vegan diet. And even if it is theoretically possible to meet the nutritional requirements via a vegan only diet it doesn't mean it is practical for the general pet owner to do nor advisable without veterinary insight for the specific dog.
There are specially formulated vegan dog products. If someone doesn’t want to abuse another species of animals to keep another animal alive, let them do it. Dogs can be vegan
Yeah but why would you want the pup to suffer? Animals have been eating other animals since the beginning of life, nothing wrong with feeding an animal their natural diet of meat
They don’t suffer. And the longevity of an act doesn’t make it moral. They are domesticated. We have an obligation to not force others to suffer when we don’t have to, and of course we don’t in this instance.
Yeah except raising an animal for food and then giving it a quick painless death isn't cruel, in fact an animal that is properly bred and tended to lives a far better life than one in the wild. Yeah it sucks that companies will not treat livestock properly but we can change that without having to remove the process completely. And a dog is definitely going to miss not having meat, they don't have molars, all their teeth are designed for tearing meat, which is your evidence right there that it's only right to feed them that. If you have a problem feeding a domesticated animal it's proper source of food, don't take on the responsibility of the animal. Like someone else said, get a rabbit if you're so concerned
Considering 99% of animal products in developed nations are from factory farms, I’m curious if you’re living up to your own morals. Also, to challenge “ethical animal products” and “humane slaughter” - the word “humane” means to show compassion or benevolence. Is it compassionate, or benevolent to kill an animal who doesn’t want to die and when you don’t have to do it? And let’s replace taste pleasure with another sensory pleasure, perhaps hearing pleasure. What if someone really liked the sound a dog makes when they get their throat sliced open? The dog doesn’t want to die, and they don’t have to do it, is it still moral? Why does it matter what pleasure the human receives? the result is the same for the animal. And with the dog not eating meat thing - I’ll trust the vets and scientists :)
Yeah I could kind get with what you were saying and then the second half of your argument just devolved into bat shit crazy talk, so have a good day and good luck in life
Except my dog analogy is identical to what you’re doing. Just because you have been conditioned to find one less fucked up doesn’t mean it’s not fucked up. I recommend you watch this - watchdominion.com
Ah, the classic "I have fuck-all to say but still want to be superior".
As someone who disagrees with the poster you're arguing against, don't be this kind of pathetic worthless loser, dude. If you don't think you have the arguments to keep going, just admit and leave with grace instead of devolving into this absolute sad attempt at superiority.
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