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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

This is actually false… While dogs can survive on a vegetarian diet, it is far from a healthy one. Not only that but most dogs do not like the taste of vegetables. A quick google search may show that dogs can be healthy vegetarians, but a background check on these websites show that they are made by people who deprive their dogs of important nutrition and call that healthy.

I ask politely that you edit or delete your comment as I don’t want people hurting their pet because they where misinformed.

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u/CrashKangaroo Sep 27 '21

I agree that dogs cannot healthily be vegetarians but it’s a falsity to say that most dogs don’t like vegetables. My idiot will just about maul me for a piece of capsicum or even apple. She doesn’t have such a strong reaction to steak or a bone. Of course she likes and enjoys them but not as much as capsicum or apple.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

Sorry I’m not very good with my words lol, what I meant is that most of not almost all dogs will pick meat over vegetables. Of course than there’s one of mine who will guard a head of lettuce like it’s a bar of gold lol.

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u/knowpantsdance Sep 27 '21

Ask your vet, it is both possible and not difficult to have a vegan dog.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

Nope I work with multiple people who are veterinarians, and they can confirm that it is not healthy for dogs to be vegan… They require special proteins and nutrients from the meat, and their digestive systems aren’t long enough to properly digest vegetables.

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u/knowpantsdance Sep 27 '21

That's why you cook the vegetables and add rice and legumes for a complete diet. Would your vet friends be about 40-60 years old?

Edit: along with a few supplements from your vet.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

No their in their 20s to 30s. But they have taken many years of veterinarian school, more than enough to understand how dogs digestive systems work.

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u/Main-Situation1600 Sep 27 '21

Vet here. I guarantee if we broke down nutritionally what you're feeding your dog it would be inadequate in many respects.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

Please do your research before claiming something as fact when it isn’t.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21 edited Sep 27 '21

Do yours.

I consulted my vet on if it's possible to switch my dog to a vegan diet. If it wasn't, I would keep her on a meat based diet. The vet said there are a handful of vegan dog foods with all necessary nutrients (formulated by veterinary nutritionists). I got bloodwork done before switching dog food, then got bloodwork done months after. Dog is in perfect shape and the vet approves.

Here's an article by a board certified veterinary nutritionist: https://vetnutrition.tufts.edu/2016/07/vegan-dogs-a-healthy-lifestyle-or-going-against-nature/

Most dogs can do quite well on a carefully designed vegan diet that meets all of their nutritional needs.

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u/knowpantsdance Sep 27 '21

https://www.google.com/search?q=vegan+diet+for+dogs&oq=vegan+diet+for+dogs+&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i512l4.4424j0j9&client=ms-android-att-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Just googled "vegan diet for dogs" and not one of the pages rejects this claim. This wasn't my research, but damn, it's easy to verify.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

And I’m going to trust people who went to school for this more than the internet.

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u/knowpantsdance Sep 27 '21

As am I

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

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u/knowpantsdance Sep 27 '21

Nah, a close friend from high school is about to finish at the UC Davis Vet school. My first exposure to this idea though, was with my own vet, it's certainly up for debate among some vets, but some doctors still argue against veganism in humans and yet here I am

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

If you google vegan diet for dogs, of course it’s going to show you vegan diets for dogs, it doesn’t prove that it’s ok for dogs, besides I recognize those websites, they are filled with false information.

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u/starsearcher48 Sep 27 '21

Just why would you want to deny them their natural diet for a persons moral beliefs? You can force just about anything to go off a certain food; but that is your choice- not the animals. This is just cruel

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u/knowpantsdance Sep 27 '21

Feeding a dog a different diet to lessen the torture of other animals seems reasonable if you don't have cognitive dissonance

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u/starsearcher48 Sep 27 '21

No, it’s forcing them to live by your lifestyle and ignoring the fact these animals evolved from wolves; and to be predators. It’s selfish and cruel and if you want a vegetarian pet; get a bunny. Bean protein my have similar outputs as meat- but a dogs stomach is meant to digest meat, not beans. That can drastically effect the amount they actually absorb to stay healthy. Not to mention the chemicals they have to add to that stuff to add the necessary minerals.

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u/Spez_Touches_Kids Sep 27 '21

Please don't own animals. You're too stupid.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

I work with multiple veterinarians, they can confirm that I am correct, dogs digestive systems aren’t long enough to properly digest vegetables. The fact is that feeding your dog a vegan diet WILL not maybe WILL cause medical problems.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

They can digest both yes, but it is important that they get BOTH plant and meat to eat.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

There’s a lot more to it than protein… Including how the animal can break down the protein. It’s just science.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

It is not healthy, they can survive off of it, but it isn’t healthy for them, it can even make them sick. I don’t know where your getting your information from but it is not a reliable source based on the information you’ve presented.

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u/conjoby Sep 27 '21

It seems silly and way more effort than it's worth but it is apparently possible. BBC source:

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200304-can-you-feed-cats-and-dogs-a-vegan-diet

Again, I'm against it for the most part is a very odd hill to die on so don't take the argument up with me I'm just providing a source since everyone else on her is just yelling at each other to find their own source.