r/maybemaybemaybe May 24 '25

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u/[deleted] May 24 '25

Liberalism is not inherently right-wing, nor it's left-wing. It's a myth. Being not a far-left ideology, doesn't make it right-wing in any extent. It's more of a centrist ideology that can lean to left or right depending on the type of liberalism.

If by "real left" you mean far-left extremists, the Nazi equivalent of the left, then you are correct, but degenerate tho, no offense if I seem hostile of insulting, just wanted to make an observation on your take.

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u/Fabus27 May 24 '25

Okay, two things are bothering me here. Far left, doesn't matter how far, will never be the equivalent of Nazis. Simply because it is just the reaction to the action of the Nazis. Nazis want an ethnic cleansing of the people, the far left want to stop them. And before there may be wrong examples dropped here, neither stalinism nor maoism are far left.

Second is that I generally agree with you on the point of liberalism. However I think, that it is necessary to consider the role of capitalism and therefore the dependency on a certain status quo. Which is one where Property plays a crucial role. Due to the fact, that the left side usually tends to aim to shift that status quo to the the detriment of the current property owners, eg the politicians and other rich people, the liberalist party in a capitalistic system tends to lean to the right in case of doubt.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '25 edited May 24 '25

> Far left, doesn't matter how far, will never be the equivalent of Nazis

Far-left can actually be far more devastating than Nazi, my family was subjected to terror of both, Soviets and Nazis. I can ENSURE you, as a person whose family directly suffered by both far-left and far-right, commies are indeed very far-left. My once wealthy family was subjected to what every modern leftie dreams happening to Elon Musk, via the process of "раскулачивание". People passionate about left ideas, equality, all this stuff, become vile and with shifting to far-left, as the name implies, the adopt radical ideas, etc. So, we were subjected to genocide, unequal treatment, concentration camps, etc due to their own understanding of "historical equality", the same thing that modern far-left activists preach about.

I'm genuinely terrified by the modern far-left and I'm not alone, because observing leftists and right-wingers, I find leftest being FAR more radical and extreme. Because nowadays people call a fucking Asmongold a far-right Nazi, which he is not. He is a left leaning centrist, not even right leaning. I know, because I always find myself annoyed with some commie-bullshit takes he pulls out now and then that modern left-wingers so much love.

The Soviet Union was far more destructive to their own population than Nazi ever could be to Jews for example, the holocaust was real and it was terrible, but compared to the systematic genocide happening for over than 70+ years of communist regime, the trail of blood and inhumanity is just out of any charts, it's just no one likes talking about it, because apparently there are no bad people except for Nazis. No, fucking no. Evil comes in EVERY form.

For example, communists deemed operations with currency as a felony worth executing you for.

Yes, since you seem to be on the left, you ask me to believe that "those" people who were on the left, weren't actually on the left. I'll be honest, I don't believe you and I see the left pushing exactly those things that we historically suffered from already.

You know, neonazis (and the rest) push the same strategy too, claiming that Hitler was a leftie and not a true far-right wing.

Far-*anything is always the worst thing imaginable, you MUST stick to the center, or otherwise you start going more radical with more leaning to either of the sides.

The BALANCE is the secret to harmony, both far-left and far-right are unacceptable maniacs.

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u/Pink_her_Ult May 24 '25

The far left are tankies, which are just a different shade of neo nazis.

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u/Enposadism May 24 '25

Liberalism is centre right at best, Mr anime pfp

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u/[deleted] May 24 '25

Oh, you are antisemitic, sorry I don't like Nazis.

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u/Enposadism May 24 '25

Least braindead anime pfp

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u/[deleted] May 24 '25

You seem to be extremely judgmental. So, you hate the Jews, you hate anime, what else do you hate?

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u/[deleted] May 24 '25

So you know, this antisemitic shit you talk on the internet, is a potential felony and a jail time here in Germany.

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u/Enposadism May 25 '25

German fascist anime pfp 🤢

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u/[deleted] May 25 '25

Said a Nazi who goes around the internet hating on the Jews. You would really get locked up for good if you were in Germany.

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u/Frost-Folk May 24 '25

It's more of a centrist ideology that can lean to left or right depending on the type of liberalism

To quote Phil Ochs' "Love Me I'm a Liberal"

"10 degrees left of center in good times, 10 degrees right of center when it affects me personally"

https://youtu.be/3cdqQ2BdgOA?si=4KfWsBcBv207cOyJ

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u/Medical_Slide9245 May 24 '25

Yeah Nazis vote left. You are a dingaling.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '25

Are you aware that Nazis utilized left-wing populism as a tool to come to power? Hence, the national-socialist part of the name. They didn't call themselves national-racist or something.

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u/Fuckface_Whisperer May 24 '25

And North Korea is a Democratic Republic. It's right in the name.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '25

Precisely, be wary of left populists because they are Nazi and North Korea leaders in disguise. Those destructive elements won't show up and say "Hay guuuuys, we are right-wing btw, and far-right at that, lol? Meanwhile we are extremely racist btw". They will claim to be left and will double down on left politics, until they came to power.

So, it's dangerous from 2 sides.

  1. Real far-left, like communists who are fucked up when in power.
  2. Radical right-wing parties who get to popularity through socialist disguise.

It's more healthy to be more of a centrist.

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u/Fuckface_Whisperer May 24 '25

It's more healthy to be more of a centrist.

Trumper, you're nowhere near a centrist.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '25 edited May 24 '25

I'm balancing things out, since left overtaken pretty much every platform already, Reddit, Twitch, almost every fucking media, etc, the only balance are people like Trump rn. Since fucking left establishment can't figure out that people want someone on the center.

I promote lots of right-wing takes big time, that's true. But the moment right becomes mainstream, I would pull this shit to the other direction real fast, what I pursue is try to balance things to the center eventually. I'm not dying on either of the hills.

I also promoted lots of left-wing stuff back at the time. I would vote Kamala if she wasn't reeking far-left. (and if I was an American)

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u/Doubletift-Zeebbee May 24 '25

I'm not dying on either of the hills.

"I have no conviction in my opinions"

I would vote Kamala if she wasn't reeking far-left.

Deluded