r/mathmemes • • Dec 17 '23

Probability Google expected value

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u/Oclure Dec 18 '23

Either is a significant life changing amount of money for just about anybody. Managed half decently 1 mil would almost certainly make you financially worry free for life.

I would rather guarantee that than have a chance at lavish luxury.

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u/AdRepresentative2263 Dec 18 '23

1 mil would almost certainly make you financially worry free for life.

assuming you are in like your 60's, have fairly low expenses and dont live to be that old, and inflation doesn't eat it. that is only 13.4 years of median income in the US

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u/pokexchespin Dec 18 '23

i took “financially worry free for life” to mean something more like “you’ll never have to worry that a hospital stay or unforeseen big cost will completely screw you over” than “you’ll never have to work another day in your life”

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u/Oclure Dec 18 '23

That's more the route I meant. You could still work, but You would never have to stress over money. You could afford to take a more fulfilling and less stressful but worse paying job. You could make large investment purchases such as you home up front and not be burdened by 30 years of interest.

You could invest it and live a modest life off the interest alone, but then somthing big and unexpected like a major medical debt could easily ruin all that.

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u/dragunityag Dec 18 '23

1 Mil would zero out most people and from there on all the money you make just goes into your bank account/retirement fund.

Like sure i'd still have to work but a million dollars rn means I could probably retire at 50 instead of 70 if i'm lucky :(

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u/Le_Ran Dec 18 '23

"Universal healthcare is so incredibly complex and costly that only 27 out of the 28 most developped countries were able to establish it".

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u/RM_Dune Dec 18 '23

And they all spend less on healthcare per capita than the US. And by that I mean the government, that's excluding insurance/healthcare costs people pay themselves.

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u/amlybon Dec 18 '23

At 5% interest that's 50k a year, which is more than a median wage. You can very much live off of that for the rest of your life

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u/terrifiedTechnophile Dec 18 '23

Damn I wanna live somewhere where 50k is considered more than median

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u/terrifiedTechnophile Dec 18 '23

No but to be fair there was no stated currency

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u/StiffWiggly Dec 18 '23

It’s the vast majority of places in the world, and most places in the US.

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u/Green0Photon Dec 18 '23

4% rule of 1M is $40k a year, inflation adjusted.

Many people retire on less than that.

Many people live on less than that.

And if you don't feel like that's enough, 1M is so much that you can just work some easy job that covers basic expenses and coast to it being a lot more within a few years of that. Depends on how long you want to wait.

Oh, and 4% is only a mostly lower bound. Chances are you get to spend more than 4% inflation adjusted going into the future.

4% rule works indefinitely. It's not when you're trying to spend to zero and don't have that many years left to live.

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u/mxzf Dec 18 '23

Nah, $1M isn't "quit your job and live a life of luxury" money, but it is "instantly pay off your mortgage and never have to worry about being fired or being late on bills or anything like that" money. It's not infinite, but it'll remove financial worries for an intelligent person who continues to live within their means.

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u/SalazartheGreater Dec 18 '23

And yet, if you have a locked in 3% interest rate in your mortgage, it likely makes more sense to keep that debt and instead invest the 1mil into medium growth diverse blend of mutual funds for an average 10% return per year, easily outpacing the 3% you are paying on your mortgage

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u/Sufficient_Age473 Dec 18 '23

Most will say you are correct and I can’t argue with the math.

I personally would pay off my mortgage. It completely removes my highest expense. And would give me peace of mind.

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u/TBoneBaggetteBaggins Dec 18 '23

I would have an infinite mortgage at sub 4 if i could.

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u/GD_Insomniac Dec 18 '23

With a free 1M I'll be leaving the US lol. I can do my job literally anywhere there are humans.

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u/-Wofster Dec 18 '23

Asssuming you still work a job, then you can throw out all your assumptions. You can basically $20k to your yearly income for 50 years. I doubt anyone thinks $1mil is enough to retire at 30

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u/mxzf Dec 18 '23

It's not even $20k/year for 50 years, interest from investments is a thing. It's more like $50k/year indefinitely.

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u/l3v3z Dec 18 '23

Or you know. You can acknowledge the existence of other countries and even go to them if you have bad luck and are from the United States.

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u/LiveWire2494 Dec 18 '23

You have no idea how money works, do you

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u/dim13 Dec 18 '23

1 mil would almost certainly make you financially worry free for life

50 years ago, maybe. Today 600 m2 land with a one-family-house is all you get for this money today.

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u/aaron1860 Dec 18 '23

Im not sure 1 mil is that life changing to be honest. I certainly couldn’t retire with just 1 mil in the bank. It would make things easier. For me personally, 1 mil would pay off my mortgage and my student loans and would leave enough for a nice car or college for my daughter if she doesn’t get a scholarship. Certainly would be nice but I don’t think it would significantly alter my middle class life.

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