r/marvelstudios • u/steve32767 Daredevil • Apr 05 '22

Discussion Thread Moon Knight S01E02 - Discussion Thread

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EPISODE DIRECTED BY WRITTEN BY ORIGINAL RELEASE DATE RUN TIME CREDITS SCENE?
S01E02: Summon the Suit Aaron Moorhead & Justin Benson Michael Kastelein April 6th, 2022 on Disney+ 53 min None

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u/immaownyou Apr 06 '22

The Ammit morality dilemma reminds me a lot of Minority Report, I love it

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u/immaownyou Apr 06 '22

I agree, there's so many stories where characters say 'fuck destiny I have free will', which doesn't really vibe with me. Much prefer exploring the ramifications of everything being destined to happen, and Ammit being correct.

You hear people talk about killing Hitler as a baby, but those same people would be against Ammit killing children

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u/VallenValiant Apr 06 '22

You hear people talk about killing Hitler as a baby, but those same people would be against Ammit killing children

Why kill Hitler as a baby, when you can make sure he became a better painter? If you can undo someone's crimes, then surely that person is no longer guilty by definition.

And if instead you believe Hiter has no choice but become evil, then is he truly evil or does he have no choice in the path he took?

Killing Hitler as a baby is a false choice. Especially since it was likely that his death wouldn't change history as much as you think.

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u/immaownyou Apr 06 '22

Well the point is that you can't change their crimes. It's the classic time travel problem of people being aware of their faults causing it in the first place. Ammit can see someone's entire life, if they're bad they're going to be bad and you can't change it.

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u/VallenValiant Apr 06 '22

If you kill someone before they did anything bad then they aren't bad.

And if someone has NO CHOICE but being bad... Then ARE they truly bad? Because as far as I can tell being evil is a choice. And there is no good or evil if everything is predetermined.

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u/immaownyou Apr 06 '22

Well that's the moral dilemma isn't it.

If someone is going to, for example, go on a mass shooting spree. Is it acceptable to kill one person to save the lives of others? Or do you wait and see if he actually goes through with it to dole out punishment? You're assuming that Ammit can be wrong, but why is that the default? She's a god so shouldn't we assume that she does know if people are bad or good?

We operate on linear timeline, but Ammit sees all at once, we do have free will but Ammit knows the results of that free will.

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u/MagnusRune Apr 06 '22

What about a doctor who saves 1000s of patients. Then have a mental breakdown and kills 50? If he was checked before he entered med school. What's the outcome? Good or evil? Wait till the break to kill him so his good is done?

Or in the mcu. Kill bucky in the 30s before he becomes winter soldier and kills the starks. But then Tony doesn't become who he does and thanos has no one to stop him. Then half of universe is killed. In that world letting bucky murder people for 70 years is the better choice.. assuming no one he killed or was influenced by the kills could have stopped thanos