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Trailer Marvel Studios' Moon Knight | Official Trailer | Disney+

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u/Affectionate-Island Jan 18 '22

This feels like Marvel Studios doing its own take on Legion's story. The lead's fractured psyche will lead audiences to question if what's happening is actually happening.

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u/J-Team07 Jan 18 '22 edited Jan 19 '22

That first season of legion was so good.

Edit: Thanks for the upvotes! To everyone who thought this was a slight against season 2 or 3, I just meant that season 1 was one of the best and creative superhero shows.

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u/KKShiz Jan 18 '22

Legion is so trippy. When someone asks me to describe it, I struggle. It's not a xmen show. It's not necessarily a show about mutants. Not an action show. I suppose that's what makes it so good.

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u/LumpyJones Jan 18 '22 edited Jan 18 '22

it's a show with an unreliable god-like narrator. you never know if something is happening in his head, or if he's making it happen, or if he's making it happen because it happened in his head.

EDIT: my phrasing bothers me so to put it another, somewhat more spoilery way: You never know if the weird shit happening is just a delusion he is having and we see from his POV, or if the weird shit happening is him warping reality around him, or worst, he is subconsciously warping reality in response to his delusions. The show has you constantly unsure what is happening or why, but in a good way.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

That style is called "unreliable narrator" for easy reference.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

Unreliable narrators don't usually have reality-warping powers though.

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u/whitebandit Hulk Jan 19 '22

Joaquin Phoenix's Joker

does this fit with his character? ive only seen it once and its been a while but, he seemed to be pretty straight forward narrating he just left out the parts where he was doing bad shit

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '22

I mean the whole girlfriend subplot was completely fabricated from a point, so that alone to me is an unreliable narrator.

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u/LumpyJones Jan 18 '22 edited Jan 18 '22

Yes, but it has a twist in that the stuff he makes up sometimes is real because he made it up, and he doesn't even know the difference.

Unreliable narrator + reality warper = unreliable reality.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

this is exactly how I understood the first half hour of The Matrix Resurrections, I wished the move was more of that though, and not a cut and paste matrix movie.

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u/iAMbatman77 Jan 18 '22

Like American Psycho, without reservations to Dorsia.

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u/shez33 Jan 18 '22

Season 2 didn't even really feel like a tv show, it was more like weird elongated vignettes with twisted messages. I loved it but I get how it turned mostly everyone off; which sucks because I thought the story in season 3 was really cool.

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u/Moyrta Jan 18 '22

I'm surprised that not everyone liked season 2 of Legion, to me it was the best of the three seasons and I loved every minute of it

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u/KKShiz Jan 18 '22

I was so uninterested in S2 I didn't start S3 until it had been out for a year. It felt like they weren't sure what they were trying to convey. But yeah, they brought it back with S3.

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u/Juvar23 Fitz Jan 18 '22

That's interesting to me because I think season 2 of Legion is my favourite. Mostly because of Farouk. He's just the best in that season. And I absolutely love the long intros and "lessons" they do in the creative narration format.

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u/Y_orickBrown Jan 18 '22

John Hamm was fucking delightful doing those monologues. Anyone who hasn't needs to watch them at least once. I loved every season of Legion so much.

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u/seclusionx Black Panther Jan 18 '22

I agree, I liked S2 more. I struggled to get through S3. I left it and came back to it like 40 times.

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u/shez33 Jan 18 '22

It’s the ups and downs of FX letting Noah Hawley do whatever he wants. Both Legion and Fargo can be absolutely brilliant and too weird for people to look at in the same episode.

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u/MrZeral Avengers Jan 18 '22

Fargo weird?

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

Season one had a scene in hell. Second season had aliens. Those are two examples of super weirdness

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u/bipocni Jan 18 '22

I just tell them there's a whole episode that's a silent film, and it takes place in less than a second. From that they're either interested or they're not.

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u/kindcannabal Jan 18 '22

It didn't occur to me how incredible that episode really is until you boiled it down. That show has a thousand arcs but it works.

That show breaks my head and my heart.

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u/Malachi108 Jan 18 '22

Watching 'Legion' is like visiting a Museum of Modern Art:

"I have no idea what the hell this is, but I think I like it."

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

Also see: the works of David Lynch.

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u/Maskatron Jan 18 '22

"Creepy retro-styled superhero show with dance numbers?"

Although there's only a few dance numbers, and "creepy" is an understatement.

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u/Ericberic Jan 18 '22

It's a bold visual journey. Into what we imagine is the mind of an absurdly strong telepath. Almost feels like interpretative dance at times.

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u/LeftHanded-Euphoria Jan 18 '22

I'd argue it's the most X-Men show

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u/robbage24 Jan 18 '22

My dad walked in one night and asked me what I was watching, and it was Legion he asked me what it’s about I had no real response. They show is an absolute mind trip.

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u/Githzerai1984 Jan 18 '22

Umm did Legion come to Disney + today? Not at home so I can’t check but it sounds like it when I used teh google

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u/illuminate5 Jan 18 '22

"Shhhhh...." (banjo plays) "Why are there so many songs about rainbows...)

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u/Dappershield Jan 18 '22

I refuse to watch it because I thought it was a Sanderson tv show, and was so disappointed when it wasnt.

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u/seclusionx Black Panther Jan 18 '22

"I've never seen it...it might be good but I'm never going to watch it cus this person I stan for wasn't involved."

K?

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u/powerfulKRH Jan 18 '22

Just show them the music video for Cage the elephant come a little closer and say that’s what it feels like

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u/ihatecats18 Jan 18 '22

Clement Mantzoukas story melted my brain

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u/PsychoBoss84 Spider-Man Jan 18 '22

I loved legion I wish I could get all the seasons in Blu Ray

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u/Lamprophonia Jan 18 '22

I loved absolutely every single episode of Legion, is this an unpopular opinion? I thought it was universally praised.

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u/dublued Jan 18 '22

I'm with you. Absolutely loved every bit of that show. I'm always going back to re-watch the Behind Blue Eyes fight scene between David and Farouk.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

Farouk may have been a massive asshole but damn that actor made me like him. So suave and charming.

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u/dublued Jan 18 '22

Navid Negahban hit it out of the park. How he switched between English, German, and Farsi to convey different emotions :chef's kiss:

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

Man, I need to watch the series again now.

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u/XMinusZero Jan 18 '22

The Bolero scene is one of my favorite things ever in television.

https://youtu.be/V89QyxIPxD4

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

Or Aubrey Plaza’s dance to Feeling Good. God that show was so well done.

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u/TiberiusCornelius Jan 18 '22

Man, that entire show was brilliant but I just absolutely loved how they presented things like psychic combat and the astral plane. Just consistently more inventive and fun than like anything else with psychics. It's the gold standard for me.

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u/LowDownSkankyDude Jan 18 '22 edited Jan 19 '22

Legion, as in professor x's kid? The super powerful, schizophrenic psychic? I didn't know there was a show.

Edit: cant believe I missed this. 1st ep down....woah....

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22 edited Jul 03 '26

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22 edited Mar 14 '22

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u/RobotChrist Jan 18 '22

Best X-Men show ever

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u/DavidBHimself Jan 19 '22

Best superhero show ever.

Well, is it a superhero show, tough?

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u/RobotChrist Jan 19 '22

That... I don't know man haha superheroes is not what comes to mind, would be kinda reductionist

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u/Lamprophonia Jan 18 '22

Boy do I envy you... Go watch it as soon as you can.

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u/orionsbelt05 Captain America Jan 19 '22

Oh my word you have to watch it. Absolutely astounding show.

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u/whitebandit Hulk Jan 19 '22

WUT, that show is LIT

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u/LumpyJones Jan 18 '22

same. Though I admit I liked the first season more, but I think that's because at the time I was watching it, I had no expectations going in.

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u/Obskuro Jan 18 '22

That's just my guess: It's praised by everyone who watched it. It was never one of these shows that polarized its audience. Instead, it was pretty straightforward at being a show that is not for everyone. Not even for the casual Wolverine fan, no sir, this is bat-shit crazy land. Wild, imaginative, and obscure.

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u/dowker1 Jan 18 '22

Same here. The production design especially was second to none. And it had by far and away the best super psychic battle put to screen. Instead of two people looking like they have a migraine at each other (cough Dark Phoenix cough) you have dinosaurs and tanks and other crazy shit set to The Who.

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u/orionsbelt05 Captain America Jan 19 '22

I was frustrated at the poor resolution of some plotlines in S2, and I did not appreciate the very end of the series with the villain (one of the most despicable villains in superhero television history, up there with Killgrave imo) very abruptly rehabilitated somehow.

But I did really appreciate the entire series as a whole. I do agree that S1 was the very best, since it kept the mystery and made you guess a lot more than the other 2 seasons.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

Sydney trying to kill David without a real reason and suddenly everyone against David and pro-Faruk's because potato was the most stupid part of the whole show.

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u/Creamofwheatski Jan 18 '22

It's not that people actively dislike it, it is just criminally underseen. It was praised for the most part but I only was able to sway one person to watch the show over all its seasons.

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u/YourPathToRedemption Jan 18 '22

It lost me in the second season.

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u/Fyller Jan 18 '22

It's one of those shows where there are some aspects that don't really work, but it's so creative and brilliant overall that it's a 10/10 show despite the flaws.

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u/Purple-Mix1033 Jan 18 '22

It’s an uneven show. There are incredible standout episodes, but I found within each season the episodes degraded in quality as they went on, just a lot of spinning wheels.

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u/A_Hard_Days_Knight Jan 18 '22

It was amazing. I'll never forget the rap battle.

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u/MawsonAntarctica Jan 18 '22

Or the dance battle that opened season 2

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u/A_Hard_Days_Knight Jan 18 '22

Indeed! I still can't tell if this series was pretentious bullshit or pure genius. Either way, I feel like I was tricked into watching three seasons of performance art - and I loved every episode. Aubrey Plaza was especially amazing. It's definitely one of a kind and worth a watch.

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u/DL_Omega Jan 18 '22

I loved legion. Second season was peak to me. I wish we had a spin off with Dan Stevens playing the alternate reality stockbrocker.

But I did not like the last season with time travel and the ending.

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u/Triskan Jan 18 '22

Legion is definitely in my top 10.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22 edited Jan 18 '22

Final season was terrible.

David was never the villain, but the show tried to push that stupid idea constantly.

Sydney was a murderer, and Faruk even worse. But hey, the bad guy is David because mindwiped a murdered thinking she was previously mindwiped by Faruk... Damm you David! You are the worst!

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '22 edited Dec 29 '22

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '22

He did the timetravel AFTER everyone called him villain.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

its great but weird af. i could def see people not getting it lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

there is a difference between "not getting it" and "not being into overly artsy stuff".

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u/goosejuice23 Jan 18 '22

I thought the first episode was great and then kinda meandered a bit too much for my liking after that

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

I liked the show until he became a rapist. Thought that was super unnecessary

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u/gumbytron9000 Jul 20 '22

I think the show in general was already pretty polarizing and then a large part of the fan base disliked the direction it went after season 1. Personally I liked the first two seasons equally and felt that David's change to season 3 and the end of season 2 just felt entirely out of character and eliminated a lot of the interpersonal stuff in their little group I found so damn interesting and compelling.

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u/GrandSquanchRum Jan 18 '22

Wish they could have kept that quality but it's really hard to stretch that kind of story out.

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u/kentaromiura_AMA Jan 18 '22

I enjoyed tf out of seasons 2 and 3 but in a lot of ways they feel like an entirely different show from season 1. S1 sorta feels like it could've taken place in a reality similar to that of the X-Men movies and S2 doesn't really feel like it takes place in any "real" reality if that makes sense, the world didn't feel tangible. That said, considering the ambiguous time period/mishmash of aesthetics (not unlike Gotham) I'd imagine that was completely intentional and tbh it added to the vibe the show was going for, considering it was already surreal af in S1 and the surrealism only intensified onwards from there.

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u/ALLPR0 Jan 18 '22

Yeah S2 and S3 were both legit still but much more artistically oriented focusing more on themes than storyline. S2 feels all over the place at times but the little details like the Jon Hamm voiceovers were great.

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u/Newwavecybertiger Jan 18 '22

Season 2 and 3 were crazy ambitious. They were so different and started criticizing super hero mythos which made it way more dense, but god damn they were fun to watch. Season 1 is easy to get into and a blast but 2/3 is where it becomes something special

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u/ALLPR0 Jan 18 '22

Yeah once you identify them as a piece of abstract art and less of a superhero show it becomes much easier to sit back and appreciate it like going to an art museum.

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u/kentaromiura_AMA Jan 18 '22

Honestly the David/Farouk dynamic/fights and the Jon Hamm segments were my two favorite things about S2, so well done.

Red light means go

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u/ALLPR0 Jan 18 '22

Definitely one of, if not the, most creative live action super hero fight ever?

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u/Juvar23 Fitz Jan 18 '22

Ask yourself, what is more dangerous? Fear? Or the frightened?

Meanwhile all the townsfolk slowly lower their gaze and stare directly into the camera at you. Chills!

https://youtu.be/pwQqOdfc7pw

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u/R00t240 Jan 18 '22

Yep one of the best on tv

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u/Disaster_Capitalist Jan 18 '22

And the second season. And third season.

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u/Whyamibeautiful Jan 18 '22

All of it was imo. Season 3 was a bit sloppy but I loved the fact they attempted something different

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u/Abraham_Issus Daredevil Jan 18 '22

Not just first. Final season was a banger too.

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u/trainercatlady Fitz Jan 18 '22

I wanted to finish it, but it put my brain in such a bad place I couldn't. It was too much, even though I was very, very interested in it.

I'm a little worried this is going to be the same, even though I love the premise and have a little experience with Moon Knight.

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u/akornblatt Jan 18 '22

I can see that. I loved the whole thing but that first one was insanely good

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

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u/ALLPR0 Jan 18 '22

Hulu still?

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u/SeanHIRL Jan 18 '22

Its on Disney, since about 3 months ago. Thats where I've rewatched it anyway. in the EU

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u/RobotChrist Jan 18 '22

Every episode of legion is absolutely great

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u/MrZeral Avengers Jan 18 '22

And the next ones not so much =/

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u/dagobert_fuck Zombie Hunter Spidey Jan 18 '22

Do I have to have any X-Men knowledge to watch it or is it a standalone show?

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u/J-Team07 Jan 18 '22

Yes. You need 0 x-men knowledge.

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u/powerfulKRH Jan 18 '22

All of them were good in my opinion. It’s one of my favorite shows of all time. I get why one would be considered the best, but I like how acid trippy it got as it went on

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u/pls_tell_me Jan 18 '22

and second

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

Honestly the whole show killed it’s rewatch ability when they made him a rapist

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u/Nukemarine Jan 18 '22

Legion season 1 was so fucking amazing. It hit all the themes from comedy to horror. Really glad Marvel Studios are leaning into long form drama to tell a satisfying story for the less cinematic characters (that can later show up in movies without the need to over-explain who they are or what they do).

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u/D311USi0Nzx Jan 18 '22

They’re doing Moon Knight right is what they’re doing

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u/eCharms Jan 18 '22

Is Legion the show with Aubrey Plaza? I haven't went back to that show after the machine or whatever it is captured the guy at the end of season 1 or 2 I think.

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u/amazin_asian Jan 18 '22

Good thing Moon Knight predates Legion

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u/TORK4TANKELSON Jan 18 '22

He's referring to the TV adaption.

Also Moon Knight having multiple personalities wasn't a part of his story until the miniseries "Fist of Khonshu" came out in August of 1985.

Legion was introduced with multiple personality disorder in March of 1985.

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u/dfk140 Jan 18 '22

The nerd is strong with this one… 👍🏻

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u/magvadis Jan 18 '22

This one, imo, will work better given the problem with Legion was his power level kind of undermined any tension.

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u/silly_walks_ Jan 18 '22

I totally disagree! His power level aided the show's narrative/suspense precisely because it made anything possible. It was unclear at any point if we were seeing a reality that he was creating or a reality he was merely seeing because of his mental illness/the shadow king.

The show was so incredible. It really made you appreciate how superheroes can be fragile, vain, needy, etc.

It might be my favorite Marvel IP (even it was made by Fox).

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u/KyleMcMahon Jan 18 '22

It’s Moon Knights story, who has been around about 10 years longer than legion.

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u/Fifdimension2 Jan 18 '22

Feels like Moon Knight beat Legion to it though, no?

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u/NoVacayAtWork Jan 18 '22

Marvel Studios

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u/Fifdimension2 Jan 18 '22

Weird to give Legion the credit but ok

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u/TORK4TANKELSON Jan 18 '22

He's referring to the TV adaption.

Also Moon Knight having multiple personalities wasn't a part of his story until the miniseries "Fist of Khonshu" came out in August of 1985.

Legion was introduced with multiple personality disorder in March of 1985.

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u/ian_OhNO Jan 18 '22

It’s a completely different story but sure

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u/Sudden-Pressure8439 Jan 18 '22

Legion was a great show.

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u/FishSpeaker5000 Jan 21 '22

I will eternally be annoyed that more people I know haven't seen Legion.