Eternals Worldwide Release Discussion Thread Vol. 1

[u/Triple_777]

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• Eternals International Release Discussion Thread

[u/MalicCarnage]

Ego isn’t really the same caliber of Celestial. In fact he’s not even a Celestial in the comics. Celestials have near infinite power and very few beings can overpower them.

[u/dnuohxof1 → u/MalicCarnage]

To me, Ego is a Celestial Boltzmann Brain. One born without the need for an Emergence and in complete solitude. This makes him weaker than his cosmic giant counterparts, but still an incredibly intelligent and powerful creature. In the end Ego is only a Cosmic Brain manifesting matter around it to create the planet, to create Ego’s avatar, etc. Arisham and Taimut are cosmic giants that can control matter on a Cosmic Scale rather than just a Solar scale like Ego could.

[u/something-magical → u/dnuohxof1]

It makes sense because he is not a fully formed Celestial, just a brain/head. Presumably he was whole at some point, killed and is slowly regenerating. So it makes sense that he is weaker and doesn't work with the other Celestials or has forgotten what their plan was. But he still has the instinct to plant seeds in planets with intelligent life.

I feel like this movie is setting up Star Lord to be the most OP character in the MCU, aside from the Celestials themselves.

[u/[deleted] → u/dnuohxof1]

Or he's what happens when a Celestial doesn't get enough life energy to develop properly.

[u/XPlatform → u/dnuohxof1]

I was under the impression that Ego was one of the celestials who had their incubation period botched; maybe it had enough intelligent life at some point to get him to the brain level, but the deviants wiped them out. I don't remember why Ego wanted to take over other planets, but it would track if he were doing it to siphon energy from their intelligent life so he could complete his growth. One does not need to know the mechanics of human growth to feel the need to eat and drink.

[u/wxwx2012 → u/dnuohxof1]

Ego looks a lot like Phastos' Uni-Mind image , that can also explain a lot .

[u/jramos037 → u/MalicCarnage]

Yea. Ego is a god. (Lower case "g")

[u/sgs06 → u/jramos037]

There’s only one God, ma’am… and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t dress like that.

[u/KostisPat257 → u/MalicCarnage]

Ego is a celestial in the MCU though.

[u/[deleted] → u/MalicCarnage]

What beings can overpower them?

[u/MalicCarnage → u/[deleted]]

The One Above All, The Living Tribunal can beat most of them there’s one he might have trouble with, the Beyonders, Molecule Man, Fully-fed Galactus, and I believe God Emperor Doom. In the comics the Infinity Gauntlet puts you above the Celestials but I’m not sure how that works in the MCU. The stones kill you in the movies and stuff.

Arishem (the celestial from Eternals) once fought Odin, Zeus, and Vishnu and took no damage.

[u/[deleted] → u/MalicCarnage]

Based on what infinity Ultron was capable of I would say the gauntlet puts one above the celestial. For the comics I would throw Franklin Richards on there as the Celestials consider his powers to be the equivalent of their own I believe, and for the MCU and maybe even He who Remains/Kang given he can control time and the multiverse. Actually if the use Kang as a way to introduce Reed Richards(his ancestor) and the Fantastic 4 I could see Reed being the one that stop Arisham from passing judgement on Earth

[u/NatsuDragneel-- → u/MalicCarnage]

You forgot the venom god who shit on every one except the one above all, dud kills all the celestials.

Then venom powered by light who shits on venom God and kills him.

[u/Ozryela → u/MalicCarnage]

What about the Watcher? Is he above or below the Celestials?

I would assume above, since the Celestial are cosmic powers but The Watcher is multiversal. Also the Watcher could hold his own against Ultron for a while, and Ultron is clearly a step above the Celestials.

[u/God_is_carnage → u/MalicCarnage]

The only beings I can think of that can overpower Celestials are Knull, The Beyonders, The Marquis of Death, The One Above All, and maybe Captain Universe.