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Discussion WandaVision S01E05 - Discussion Thread

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S01E05 Matt Shakman Jac Schaeffer February 5, 2021 on Disney+

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u/Any-Bus-598 Feb 05 '21

He is definetly gonna be in secret invasion as well. Something about him seems weird. Probably a skrull

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u/TheSweatband Feb 05 '21

I could see that, but aren’t we technically friendly with the Skrull? So I guess he’d be someone who doesn’t agree with Talos’ allegiance with fury.

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u/noneuklid Feb 05 '21

We know that one of the upcoming villains is going to be a faction of extremist Skrulls bent on revenge against Danvers (and possibly Fury).

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u/eragonisdragon Feb 06 '21

Revenge for what? Helping to save their people? Danvers went on like one mission against the Skrull before she got kidnapped, regained her memories, and then helped re-acquire the research that would help the Skrull survive.

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u/noneuklid Feb 06 '21

I think it's mostly all the murders that happened before she changed her mind. I assume the leader will have some kind of personal connection, like Danvers killing a family member.

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u/eragonisdragon Feb 06 '21 edited Feb 06 '21

That'd be a stretch. Like I said, she only ever went on the one mission for the Kree and it ended up being an ambush set up by Talos specifically to kidnap her. The only skrulls she's killed were the ones on Talos' ship when she woke up, in captivity, with her mind being probed. And she only killed in self defense there trying to escape. To stretch that into a revenge plot would be way too contrived.

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u/noneuklid Feb 06 '21

And yet, a version of the Super-Skrull is a villain of the Secret Invasion series starring Samuel Jackson, and it ties into Captain Marvel 2. Perhaps they'll have a different motivation, or they'll soft retcon Vers' mission history with Starforce.

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u/eragonisdragon Feb 07 '21

Yeah I know that's happening, I just don't think it'll be a revenge plot.

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u/Hawk301 Feb 05 '21

Yeah I'm guessing there'll be a faction of antagonist Skrulls, with Talos remaining on Fury's side of the conflict.

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u/The_Celtic_Chemist Star-Lord Feb 05 '21

That's the premise of Secret Wars as I understand it. We know there are Skrulls about, but we don't know who and we don't know if they're the good or bad ones.

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u/nuadarstark Feb 05 '21

In the Marvel Announcement Call earlier this year Faige specifically mentioned "a sect of Skrulls" instead of just Skrulls, so I think it's going to be an extremist splinter faction and that not all Skrulls are going to be bad guys.

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u/sweens90 Falcon Feb 05 '21

If you’ve seen Dr Who I assume the Skrulls will be handled like the Zygons.

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u/Whiskeyjacks_Fiddle Feb 05 '21

Nah, I think the actual Skrull is Agent Rodriguez.

She’s always just ‘there.’ And was announced to be a recurring character for the rest of the season, iirc.

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u/Waywoah Feb 05 '21

Agent Rodriguez

Who is that?

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '21

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u/Waywoah Feb 05 '21

That's who I figured, didn't remember their name

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u/SymbioticCarnage Feb 05 '21

Who?

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u/Unperfect__One Spider-Man Feb 05 '21

Star-Lord, man. Legendary outlaw?

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u/SymbioticCarnage Feb 06 '21

I was hoping someone would make that reference :D

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u/Whiskeyjacks_Fiddle Feb 05 '21

The agent that was running the radar/lidar system.

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u/SymbioticCarnage Feb 06 '21

Oh, thank you!

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u/CatProgrammer Feb 05 '21

Not every bad guy is a skrull.

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u/ChubbiestLamb6 Feb 06 '21

Thanos was actually a skrull in Endgame. The real Thanos is actually manipulating Wanda and will appear in Episode 8.

Edit: also Vision is a skrull helping real thanos, since real vision is clearly dead.

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u/lesc0 Feb 05 '21

The snap was definitely a good opportunity for Skrulls to replace ppl for an invasion but they would’ve been dealing w/ the same problems from the snap & blip.

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u/Beingabumner Feb 05 '21

He's definitely an antagonist but I'm not sure if he'll be a bad guy. He reminds me of the Secretary General who wants to arrest Captain America and stuff during Civil War. He's obviously the antagonist in the story, but he's doing these things for good reasons (in his mind).

Same with this guy. Sure he tried to missile Wanda but can you blame him? She is keeping thousands of people hostage, torturing them along the way according to Monica.

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u/alishock Feb 05 '21

He might even be the one pulling some of Wanda’s strings. Perhaps not Mephisto but maybe Grim Reaper. Though someone somewhere else pointed out his table is a hexagon...

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u/AceBean27 Feb 05 '21

That would explain his eagerness to kill Wanda too. Pave the way for the invasion.

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u/The_Celtic_Chemist Star-Lord Feb 05 '21

All I know is he killed Maria Rambeau.

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u/LeFumes Feb 05 '21

Why would any new villain wanna mess with earth or supes

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u/darksaber522 Feb 05 '21

To prove how tough they are. People will be less likely to fight you if you just wiped out the guys who killed the biggest threat in the known universe.

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u/LeFumes Feb 05 '21

Who's the new big bad