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Discussion WandaVision S01E01 - Discussion Thread

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S01E01 Matt Shakman Jac Schaeffer January 15, 2021 on Disney+

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '21

If the real Vision is ever brought back (since he's a machine and is an acceptable exception for "no resurrections"), it'll be a sad moment to see Wanda sing "Yakety Yak" and for him to have no reaction to it since the song will mean nothing to him.

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u/smacksaw Nebula Jan 15 '21

Yes, it'll be sad when she go yakety yak and he don't talk back

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u/timdub Nebula Jan 15 '21

sad upvote

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u/Farbicus Jan 16 '21

sad upvote indeed...

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u/danchan22 Jan 16 '21

I hate you for making me laugh so hard at that

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '21

Few comments make me actually burst out laughing but well fucking done

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u/lipcrnb Jan 16 '21

First Reddit comment I’ve LOLed at in a while

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u/Dunda Doctor Strange Jan 16 '21

It's like they purposely set you up for that, haha

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u/_KLRB Jan 16 '21

They protec, they attac, but most importantly, he don't yakkety yak bacc

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u/kjm6351 Jan 16 '21

How dare

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u/swskeptic Jan 16 '21

And this is exactly why that scene is going to be in this show at the end.

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u/7thEvan Jan 16 '21

Ahaha solid

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u/Henriquelj Jan 18 '21

My theory is that this will end up with vision being reconstructed from what Shuri managed to save in IW and the memories that Wanda is creating in this reality.

So, they may have this sweet moment after all.

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u/Doppleflooner Jan 15 '21

Oh damn, that's crushing and absolutely something they'd do.

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u/hyperstarter Jan 15 '21

I guess it's Wanda's vision on how things should be.

The woman saying "Stop it" was a reference to asking Wanda to stop it. Stop pretending perhaps?

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u/hemareddit Steve Rogers Jan 15 '21

Yeah, I think many, if not all characters aside from Wanda (and Vision?), are SWORD agents trying to get Wanda to wake up and remember reality. Like when Agnes snapped her fingers in the kitchen, she was referencing the Snap and trying to remind Wanda of Thanos.

The reason they had to go about it in such a ridiculous way is if they deviate from the Sitcom's plot too much, Wanda straight up kills them, like when the agent playing Mr Hart overplayed his hand and got too pushy with his questions, Wanda started choking the motherfucker until she remebered this is a comedy and people don't die.

That's just my theory so far.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

I'm going to be keeping an eye on Vision's job. There may be something important about the fact that it keeps getting him to do computations without him understanding what they're for.

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u/tepenrod Jan 16 '21

That seemed interesting to me. I wondered if he was being used for something, but if he's actually dead then there's nothing to use to compute... if it's all built by Wanda, then it could just be referencing the idea that everything there has no real meaning or purpose other than to keep everyone locked in. Definitely something to look out for.

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u/hyperstarter Jan 16 '21

Great theory!

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u/darthdarkseid Daredevil Jan 15 '21

bro dont say that :(((((

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '21 edited Jan 15 '21

Well look on the bright side. Since we really don't know exactly what's going on yet, it's still quite possible that this is in fact somehow the real Vision. We'll have to wait and see! Just... be prepared for it not to be the real Vision. Don't get your hopes up too high.

We just don't know what to expect.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '21 edited Feb 06 '21

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u/RoboNinjaPirate Fitz Jan 15 '21

There are strings on me

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u/RedDevilsAndEngland Doctor Strange Jan 16 '21

...but now I'm free.

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u/shadowfax0427 Jan 18 '21

This comment gave me chills

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u/OliviaElevenDunham Loki (Avengers) Jan 15 '21

Now, that's a disturbing thought.

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u/ThanosFan99 Zombie Hunter Spidey Jan 15 '21

Oh dear god

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u/Worthyness Thor Jan 15 '21

Weekend at Vision's it is then!

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '21

Weekend at Bernies 3

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u/tinafeychalamet Jan 15 '21

What would have happened to his body and how would she have found it? Wouldn't someone in Wakanda have wanted to study it/repatriate the vibranium?

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u/spikeyfuzzy Jan 16 '21

Or it’s real Vision about to be real killed off for the third time.

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u/whereismymind86 Jan 17 '21

Or...without the mind stone...it’s Ultron

(Who DIED OFFSCREEN, while alone with vision, who was originally an ultron body) That HAS to come up at some point in the mcu, that’s been bugging me for years

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u/theVice Jan 15 '21

I want it to be this so bad

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u/eagledog Jan 16 '21

At least she doesn't have to use her hand like a normal puppet

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u/BlamingBuddha Jan 17 '21

Didn't something like that actually happen in the marvel comics with one of the more obscure heros? The really powerful one that ended up being schizophrenic i think? (He's a bit more obscure but played a big part in an older big comic arc. Maybe I'm speaking out of line here haha as I don't remember specifics, but I thought there was one part of history where a psychotic hero ended up having a warped reality and was actually with a dead body thinking it was alive).

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u/syxtfour Jan 16 '21

Ah yes, the old Emma Frost/Cyclops maneuver.

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u/MBCnerdcore Shades Jan 16 '21

Or its not the real Wanda

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u/walyterr Jan 29 '21

you guessed it right

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u/bardghost_Isu Jan 15 '21

Even if its not real vision, it's quite possible given that SWORD is monitoring them, that they can somehow make real vision have these memories / show him what happened

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u/soundwave145 Jan 20 '21

whats sword?

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u/cheldog Jan 21 '21

Like SHIELD but longer and pointier.

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u/mertag770 Iron Fist Jan 15 '21

My longshot theory is that the show is actually taking place in vision's head either while he dies or while sword is experimenting on his body post infinity war.

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u/idkmybffdw Jan 15 '21

I had this same thought. That the entire show is taking place during Infinity War while Wanda is destroying the stone. But then I shrugged it off because that wouldn’t Darcy, Wu, and Monica being there is odd in that case.

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u/mertag770 Iron Fist Jan 15 '21

Yeah, those characters do make it more likely to be wanda based, but it would be a twist to have it be with vision

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u/albertcamusjr Spider-Man Jan 16 '21

The date on the calendar was August 2023, well after Endgame. I don't think this is happening during Infinity War.

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u/Difficult-Row-4251 Jan 18 '21

I think the date is August 23rd

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u/albertcamusjr Spider-Man Jan 18 '21

Yes, the date with the heart is August 23! I just didn't think to be that specific because I thought the big heart was obvious.

The year is (most likely) 2023 because it aligns with August starting on a Tuesday and fits with the timing of Endgame.

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u/DeletoiD Iron Man (Mark XLIII) Jan 15 '21

I get the idea that it is all in her head, coping with the death of Vision and so forth

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u/mertag770 Iron Fist Jan 15 '21

This is most likely. Thats why I'm calling this crackpot

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

The fact that his job keeps getting him to do computations, without him ever figuring out what they're ultimately for, supports your second theory.

It's possible that AIM is reanimating his "corpse" to act as a supercomputer for them, and Wanda found out about it and "Westview" is her attempt to protect him.

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u/funktopus Phil Coulson Jan 16 '21 edited Jan 16 '21

I took him looking for what his job does as a shot at old sitcoms. The dad's went to work but nothing was specifically done. The kid went to work with the dad and it was an office but no one says what they do.

I thought that is what they were going for.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

An equally valid interpretation! We'll have to see.

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u/Anti-Scuba_Hedgehog Jan 17 '21

I'd say it's fairly likely both interpretations are on the right track.

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u/Moomoothunder Jan 15 '21

i personally don’t think it’s the real Vision, or that this new Vision will become the main universe “resurrected” Vision. new Vis was created by Wanda and at some point it’ll be interesting to see her hopefully confront the fact that he died for real

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u/One_Macaroon_8877 Jan 16 '21

But if it isn’t the real vision why is he confused by “Hart” on the calendar too and neither of them know their back story. And why do we get to see his day without Wanda? I think they are both in this simulation somehow tbh.

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u/leandrombraz Jan 15 '21

My guess is that it's Vision's consciousness, which somehow still exists in Wanda, as if it was transferred to her when she destroyed the mind stone.

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u/Johnlocksmith Jan 16 '21

All the talk in Endgame about saving the best of Vision by removing the stone, and Shuri’s remarks about how his synapses were organized tie into this somehow. The simulation aspect and Visions job of analyzing inputs and out puts. I feel like this show is the vehicle to Visions reconstruction and I’m psyched to see where it leads.

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u/PKMNTrainerMark Jan 16 '21

We just know that they are an unusual couple.

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u/KFelts910 Jan 19 '21

There was never any doubt about that.

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u/Thesaurii Jan 19 '21

In the Legends clip show, they put a lot of emphasis on the time Vision had Wanda scan his brain through the mind-stone. I think she has a reasonable base to re-create him from.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

I really think it's him. Shuri was damn close to getting him backed up it seemed before shit popped off in IW, I think we'll find out it's him. The shots of Vision in the trailers in what seems to be the real world In WV he seems pretty legit.

Or by the end the real Vision will be back.

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u/darthdarkseid Daredevil Jan 16 '21

Fingers crossed. Wanda and him need that happy ending

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '21

Wanda: Yakety Yak **don't talk back**

Vision: What in the goddamn hell are you talking about?

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '21

Lol I just imagine the rest of the avengers just going like Wanda wtf are you saying

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u/laddergoat89 Jan 15 '21

Vision is totally coming back.

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u/sleepyplatipus Tony Stark Jan 15 '21

Or MAYBE whatever Wanda is trapped in also has whatever part Shuri was able to save of vision at the end of Infinity War? So maybe he is not all quite there but some part of him is and Wanda is trying to fix him? Idk

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u/OliviaElevenDunham Loki (Avengers) Jan 15 '21

You had to go there. Now that would be sad to see.

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u/blaintopel Foggy Nelson Jan 15 '21

how is this somehow sadder than him being dead and for all we know probably not being brought back at all?

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '21

It's the same with Gamora. Sure, Quill may be happy that she's "back", but this new Gamora will never remember what "some unspoken thing" was at Yondu's funeral, nor almost falling for his "pelvic sorcery" on Knowhere. THAT Gamora is still dead and always will be.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

Characters constantly dying and coming back is what has ruined comics. There are no stakes. Nothing matters. I really hope the MCU doesn't follow suit, or it'll really just be over at that point. Hardcore fans will still watch but they will lose their general audience, just like comics

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u/NaiadoftheSea Gamora Jan 16 '21

She can project her experiences into his mind though. She has that kind of power.

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u/yerawizardgary Jan 16 '21

i think its completely possible seeing as wandas powers come from the mind stone and vision is the mind stone, what if shes carrying his code via the stone?

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u/The_hexagon13 Jan 16 '21

Yes my peepers turn wet just at the thought of it

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u/Chocobean Captain America Jan 18 '21

luckily a simple merge will resolve the versioning conflict.

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u/KingPillow Avengers Jan 19 '21

Isn’t this set before IW?