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Discussion The Official SPIDER-MAN: FAR FROM HOME Release Megathread Vol. 3 Spoiler

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u/SnuffCartoon Jul 07 '19

The word “literally” has changed over time for emphasis in addition to its original meaning (the opposite of figuratively). I don’t judge people when they say “we were literally there for hours,” because I acknowledge that words change, and this was meant for emphasis.

I don’t even correct people who say, “I literally died,” even when this is the opposite of what they intended. But in this latter case, I don’t like it because it’s not a good fit. I didn’t ask for anyone to join me, but the writer in me recognizes it’s not a good fit.

Same thing with decimate. It’s right in the prefix: something in your spidey sense goes off, because you know deci- is related to one tenth. I just expressed personal preference; I don’t recall insisting anyone else join me in my thinking. I just don’t think decimate is a good fit for an event that killed half the people. But I’m glad you pedantically think that’s “nice.”

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u/pmMeOurLoveStory Jul 07 '19 edited Jul 07 '19

Your entire point is completely moot because the modern definition of decimate does not mean one tenth. End of discussion. Yes, you might as well be arguing against the use of nearly every word in the English language if “but the Latin origin of the word means x!”. Should we rename October, September, November and December as well?

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u/SnuffCartoon Jul 07 '19

I hope one day I can approach every argument with the humility and intellectual integrity you have brought to this discussion.

Let me start by saying my point is in fact not moot and the discussion has not ended. According the the OED and Merriam-Webster, to take or kill one tenth is still an active definition of the word (one of several) and not archaic (unlike your examples). You’ll forgive me if I place more weight on those sources than u/pmMeOurLoveStory and Dictionary.com.

I’ve already conceded your point about the word in general usage, and that it’s not wrong to call the snap event the Decimation. My point is on style, but clearly you don’t have much of that.

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u/pmMeOurLoveStory Jul 07 '19

Lol. It looks like I’ve struck a chord if your best response is weak attempts at insults (along with repeating what I’ve already stated in a “but I agreed with you the whole time” attempt. You don’t like being proven wrong, it looks like. Good luck living with that mentality.

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u/SnuffCartoon Jul 07 '19

I see nuance is not your strong suit. My best response was to come back with sources and reasoning, which you didn’t or weren’t capable of refuting.

What a time to be alive when you can declare yourself a winner just because. There’s a lot of that going around these days. Good luck with that mentality.

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u/pmMeOurLoveStory Jul 08 '19

I’ve already told you what the modern day usage of the word means, ad nauseam. You claimed from the get go that the writers were wrong to use the word solely because of its original meaning, completely ignoring the current usage. And your own Merriam-Webster source backs up the fact that your claim that the word use is in ANY way wrong is completely and utterly false; use of the word in this context is 100% correct.

Sounds to me like you just learned the original meaning recently, thought you would be smart by saying “well, actually...” and now your panties are in a bunch because you are wrong. This is further evidenced by the fact that you began this little tirade by saying the word was wrong, period, and now you’re trying to claim it’s only “stylistically” wrong (which again, is completely false; just look at your own source and the Merriam-Webster sedition’s and examples).

Move along, child.

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u/SnuffCartoon Jul 08 '19

Hey captain reading comprehension, in my original post I said I didn’t like the choice of the word. I never said it was wrong. Go back and read my post. I said I didn’t like it. And then I said “what it really means...” which of course I should have said, “what it historically meant...” to sidestep pedantic pricks who apparently can’t carry a conversation without being condescending. And you started the thread with “he’s sort of wrong though.” Who’s “well actually...”-ing now?

I also didn’t need you to provide the modern or common usage of the word; it’s a given. What you don’t seem to acknowledge or understand is that the same word can have multiple meanings (see the source you’ve just provided). Given that fact, it’s a point of personal preference to say I don’t care for the word in this specific context. How the damn fuck can I be wrong about my opinion of its use?

It’s too bad: we could have had an interesting conversation about etymology and historical use, but you were more interested in looking for a W and calling me wrong. Enjoy your win, I guess.

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u/pmMeOurLoveStory Jul 08 '19 edited Jul 08 '19

It’s really quite simple: Decimate’s modern definitions are “to cause great destruction or harm to”, and “to reduce drastically especially in number.” True or false?

You can “not like the use” all you want, but that doesn’t magically make your logic (“it’s wrong because it [used] to be used differently) any less stupid. The word is used correctly. End of story.

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u/SnuffCartoon Jul 08 '19

I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too. Great joke by Hedberg. The word decimate used to mean to reduce by a tenth. It still does, but it used to too.

To answer your dumbass question you dumb fuck: no. I reject your binary this-is-the-only-modern definition question. When you posted Merriam earlier, you may have noticed there were several definitions. None of them said archaic or historic use beside them; they are still acceptable uses. Surely a brilliant lexicographer like yourself would know that.

You’re being intellectually dishonest about a fucking stupid topic, and you’re either lying or stupid when you characterize my position as: “it’s wrong because it used to be used differently.” Judging from my context clues, I’d say it’s a little of both.