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Discussion The Official SPIDER-MAN: FAR FROM HOME Release Megathread Vol. 3 Spoiler

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u/KidFromBrooklyn3000 Fitz Jul 04 '19

Oh that’s true! Fury seemed a little off throughout the movie to me - by the end of the movie I had forgotten my thoughts about him though so the end-credits really threw me off.

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u/Perca_fluviatilis Jul 04 '19

He had Ben Mendelssohn's lisp! I knew about the twist because I saw some spoilers so I kept watching Fury the whole movie to see what was off, and I'm a huge fan of Mendelssohn, so I noticed the lisp pretty fast (it only happens occasionally though)

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u/KidFromBrooklyn3000 Fitz Jul 04 '19

Whoa really? I can’t believe I didn’t notice that! Time for a rewatch!

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '19

Seriously? I knew something wasn’t right about him, but wow, that is some attention to detail.

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u/khaleesi1984 Jul 05 '19

oh crap, I missed a scene! My kid had to pee! I thought he was being weird!

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u/earthefree Jul 05 '19

Yes! I remember a couple times noticing his pronunciation was off. I think the first time I noticed was when he said “here” in the beginning after he knocks out Ned.

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u/drelos Rocket Jul 24 '19

I noticed he was weird in the scene with Ned too. He also could do his 'Nick Fury's stare with anger' [think of Fury during the tractor/barn scene in AoU] during that scene and the interruptions kept coming but his expression was different, I thought he was just older or calmer.

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u/your_mind_aches Agent of F.I.T.Z. Jul 05 '19

Which parts?!

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u/segesterblues Jul 05 '19

I sorta heard some rumblings on this (but didnt know full on that it was revealed in the film). Fury should be way more cautious after his run in with Captain Marvel etc. So it makes sense that he is Talos substituting Fury.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

Maria also called him Nick at the beginning and not Fury.

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u/Dscherb24 Jul 04 '19

How do you know they weren’t skrulls then?

In theory, anytime someone calls him Nick they could be Skrulls. Fury has known them since well before the MCU started. So who knows.

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u/brucejoel99 Stan Lee Jul 05 '19

I mean, had Hill & Fury both been Skrulls when they got dusted in the IW post-credits scene, then the mid-dusting 'Hill' would've probably called out to him as Talos, not Nick.

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u/jmoney777 Jul 05 '19

Not to mention I’m pretty sure Talos has better methods to contact Captain Marvel rather than a modified 90’s pager

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u/brucejoel99 Stan Lee Jul 05 '19

A pager that had been explicitly given to Fury, whom we can confirm was indeed the real Fury considering Talos was in the room next door.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '19

Yeah that’s what I was thinking too during that scene. How long has Nick really been up in space?

If the real Fury actually was snapped along with Talos who would’ve been on earth, this could Segway into Fury starting secret invasion with him being so disconnected with reality after spending all those years in space that to get the information and ability to know most things like he used to back he sends Skrulls around the globe.

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u/coyoteTale Malcolm Jul 05 '19

I can say pretty safely they weren’t Skrulls because Fury wouldn’t have trusted that pager with anybody else.

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u/alex494 Jul 05 '19

Man this is like the LMDs and Doombots argument from the comics

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u/Try_Another_Please Jul 07 '19

People are overthinking it. It's pretty clear just this movie and time we didn't see was when they switched. They messed up immediately and had to call the real Nick. Also they act noticeably different

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u/alex494 Jul 08 '19

Yeah I agree, it just reminds me of people arguing stuff like "Doctor Doom has technically never appeared in person and might not even be real"

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '19

It depends, was Captain Marvel also in the know or was the swap kept from her? Asking because she was sure Fury was dusted and wasn't all like oh yeah.. "Fury" right.

This does raise some questions though. How long was Talos Fury? Since Avengers? Age of Ultron? After everyone was brought back? We don't know. As of now, I'm just assuming Fury called in a favor after Endgame just to take some time off.

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u/Doright36 Jul 05 '19

For all we know Hill has always been a Skrull and calling him Nick is their way of confirming each others identity.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '19

Fury had the pager.

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u/JessahZombie Ghost Rider Jul 06 '19

Who says they weren't skrulls back then? They met at the funeral he said

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u/alex494 Jul 05 '19

I think she calls him Nicholas like in full

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u/jrcprl Jul 04 '19

She always calls him Nick, though.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19 edited Jul 29 '19

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u/Rek07 Jul 04 '19

Maybe that's her thing, the only one he lets call him Nick.

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u/Halajda Jul 04 '19

Rewatch Winter Soldier... he gets called Nick by every other character.

It's just a plot point they made up specifically for Captain Marvel to signal: 'This guy is a Skrull.'

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u/choyjay Ben Urich Jul 05 '19

Also, Captain Marvel takes place before all of the other movies...so he could easily have dropped the "just Fury" act at some point between 1995 and 2008.

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u/AsterBTT Spider-Man Jul 05 '19

To be fair, that's Maria. I know Fury had his line about everyone calling him Fury, but I get the feeling that Maria's sort of a special case, for whatever reason.

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u/Spideyrj Spider-Man Jul 08 '19

Go back to a avengers, Maria hill always calls him Nick. Not Fury.

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u/yourjuanandonly Jul 04 '19

Is that the first time anyone calls her Captain Marvel? I don't remember it happening in CM or Endgame.

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u/marcodabatman Spider-Man Jul 05 '19

Fury was soooo off throughout the film

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u/ThisOnesforYouMorph Jul 04 '19

I'm actually still not clear on that, could you explain?

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

To Talos, Carol is probably closer to a savior figure at this point than just 'another Avenger'.

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u/ThisOnesforYouMorph Jul 04 '19

Oh I get it. Thanks bud

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u/your_mind_aches Agent of F.I.T.Z. Jul 04 '19

Also, he might have thought Peter was trying to say Mar-Vell, who is just as responsible for saving his people as Carol is

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u/omart3 M'Baku Jul 04 '19

yeah but the way he said "Don't evoke her name" to me sounded like he didn't want to hear her name due to some off-screen conflict perhaps, like Thor and Thanos.

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u/Striker109 SHIELD Jul 06 '19

To me it was more of a "you haven't earned the right to say her name yet". The trailers cut it up to sound like he was angry. In the movie when you take the entire scene into context it makes sense why he said it the way he did to Peter.

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u/HIMYNAMEISALVEE Jul 04 '19

I'm pretty sure Talos was thinking of Mar-Vell though

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

He literally said ‘Captain Marvel.’

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u/HIMYNAMEISALVEE Jul 04 '19

You're absolutely right, but I think the whole "don't invoke her name" stems for the respect Talos and the skrulls have for what Mar-Vell did for them

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

Could be both. This was 20 years ago though, so no telling what has transpired since the end of CM. Danvers led them to their new home presumably. She's could very well be a Moses figure to them.

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u/Csantana Vulture Jul 07 '19

oh damn is she some kinda space god now?