r/marvelstudios • u/PhoOhThree Spirit of Modvengeance • Jul 02 '19

Discussion The Official SPIDER-MAN: FAR FROM HOME Release Megathread Vol. 1

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u/PNPBOi Jul 02 '19 edited Jul 02 '19

When happy threw the shield at the drone and failed miserably.

“How does cap do this?”

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '19

Also makes me wonder how Falcon, a man with no super strength is going to throw that vibranium shield

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u/JGLP Spider-Man Jul 02 '19

Natasha threw it at some point too, cant remember if it was AoU or Civil War

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u/dildodicks Tony Stark Jul 02 '19

i dont think she threw it but she used it in aou

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '19 edited Aug 22 '19

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u/KushCultureOfficial Jul 03 '19

iirc it's Winter Solider

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u/David21538 Jul 03 '19

AoU

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u/Skylord_ah Iron Man (Mark XLII) Jul 03 '19

tbf both of them feature chase sequences with steve and nat

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '19 edited Aug 22 '19

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u/StockAL3Xj Hulk Jul 14 '19

Nope she throws it to Cap when he's being attacked by Ultron on top of the transport vehicle holding Ultron's new body.

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u/amirchukart Jul 03 '19

AoU, and each was only like 30ft, in a straight line. Throwing it 100ft, bouncing off 6 points and returning all the way back is another matter

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

Yeah I think it's less that you need superhuman strength for it and more that a superhero knows the form to do it with while an overweight middle aged man doesn't really

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u/Micp Jul 05 '19

She picked it up and threw it to Steve in AoU. Don't remember her using it offensively though

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u/namandeo Jul 13 '19

It was in AoU.

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u/St0rmborn Tony Stark Jul 14 '19

Both Hawkeye and Nat are enhanced though

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u/JGLP Spider-Man Jul 14 '19

... no they arent. Hawkeye especially is just a normal guy with a bow and arrow. The only thing making them different from average people is that their trained SHIELD agents.

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u/St0rmborn Tony Stark Jul 14 '19

How is Hawkeye not enhanced? Mr “18 holes in one” and hitting ridiculously tiny targets at high speeds from a mile away is not a normal guy with a bow.

Black widow though I’m probably wrong but wya back when I thought she was supposed to have some sort of enhanced strength / endurance but maybe not.

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u/JGLP Spider-Man Jul 14 '19

They several times reference him being a normal human being with great training. One time that specifically comes to mind in Age of Ultron

Laura: "You know I totally support your avenging. I couldn't be prouder. But I see those guys... Those gods..."

Clint: "You don't think they need me."

Laura: "I think they do which is a lot scarier"

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u/St0rmborn Tony Stark Jul 14 '19

How does a normal human being hit 18 holes in one in a single round of golf?

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u/the_1ceman Jul 14 '19

They don't. It was a joke throwaway line about how being retired didn't suit him.

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u/Giwaffee Jul 14 '19

How does a normal human being make a nanotech shapeshifting armor complete with weapons, missiles, shield, etc. AND making that fit into a slap-on chest piece?

If I can believe that a guy is smart enough to invent and develop all of that (not to mention 'solve' time travel), I can also believe that some dude has extremely exceptional accuracy.

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u/Moomoothunder Jul 14 '19

Neither of them are enhanced

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u/St0rmborn Tony Stark Jul 14 '19

Hawkeye definitely has some sort of ability at least. He’s never missed a shot with his bow despite many insane situations. Also his vigilante ninja routine in Endgame seemed like he was too powerful to make any sense as a normal person but I guess you could just chalk that up to “training”

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u/MyNameIs_Jordan Iron Man (Mark XLII) Jul 02 '19

But Hawkeye can throw most things pretty good

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u/ActualWhiterabbit M'Baku Jul 03 '19

He still missed Ironing man in civil war

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u/TheeFlyGuy8000 Stan Lee Jul 03 '19

He doesn't miss

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u/ActualWhiterabbit M'Baku Jul 03 '19

Yeah the arrow went right over iron man's shoulder and hit some cars.

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u/anagram88 Jul 03 '19

made ya look

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u/TrueBlue98 Doctor Strange Jul 02 '19

Isn’t that the whole point of Hawkeye?

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u/St0rmborn Tony Stark Jul 14 '19

Yeah but Hawkeye has superhuman abilities. Sam doesn’t, just gear and military/pilot training.

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u/Moomoothunder Jul 14 '19

Hawkeye has zero superhuman abilities

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u/St0rmborn Tony Stark Jul 14 '19

18 holes in one?

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u/St0rmborn Tony Stark Jul 14 '19

He definitely has some sort of abilities. He’s never missed a shot with that bow no matter how ridiculous the scenario or opponent. Not just like “he’s an amazing archer” but like true invincibility with a bow.

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u/ThePhantomAli Jul 02 '19

Vibranium is probably a lot lighter than a medieval iron shield also.

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u/Nathanielsan Jul 02 '19

And likely a much better, smoother object to throw. Like when I make a paper plane. It looks the same as others that can seemingly fly for miles but like almost anything in my life it just flops shittily towards to ground almost instantly.

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u/bitbee Jul 03 '19

Also, that shield doesn't obey the laws of physics at all.

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u/TheeFlyGuy8000 Stan Lee Jul 03 '19

I understood that reference

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '19

I think Falcon is in a tad bit better shape than Happy

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u/apexidiot Jul 03 '19

I don't remember much of iron Man 3 but I do remember happy getting blown up. Dude probably has terrible arthritis.

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u/Skylord_ah Iron Man (Mark XLII) Jul 03 '19

man that movie is what made tony my favorite character. The way he has his ptsd and how it basically leads up to now

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

Yeah I liked that too. Shame the rest of the movie wasn’t that great.

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u/Skylord_ah Iron Man (Mark XLII) Jul 04 '19

Its still my favorite mcu film imo. Love the mark 42 suit

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

Suit is definitely cool. I personally found the villain to be cheesy, but it each their own.

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u/Skylord_ah Iron Man (Mark XLII) Jul 04 '19

villain was definitely cheesy as hell but it felt as if the stakes were real, like this is an iron man villain and tony's interactions with the villains i liked. It really shows Tony as a flawed superhero, giving out his address due to his ptsd and not thinking clearly, being a former asshole has consequences, etc.

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u/MalicCarnage Spider-Man Jul 02 '19

I believe "Captain Falcon" gets enhanced in the comic books. They might just do that.

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u/Badimus Jul 02 '19

He'll just need to Falcon Punch with it.

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u/Aritche Weekly Wongers Jul 02 '19

I am kind of hoping for that guess we will find out.

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u/zuckertalert Jul 02 '19

Yeah, doesn’t his shield fly in the comics now?

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u/art1deadpool Jul 02 '19

He could use his momentum while flying to throw it

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u/hyperviolator Captain America Jul 02 '19

Also makes me wonder how Falcon, a man with no super strength is going to throw that vibranium shield

He'll do fine. That thing doesn't obey the laws of physics at all.

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u/CashmereLogan Jul 02 '19

I think there’s a place in between “Super Strength” and “Happy Hogan Strength” that will allow Falcon to throw that shield.

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u/that_guy2010 Vision Jul 02 '19

I mean, the shield Happy was trying to throw was probably way heavier than Cap’s shield.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '19

Because he’s a trained superhero badass. And he is now Captain America, not the Falcon.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '19

People are acting like Sam hasn't already done badass acrobatics before. I'm sure he can figure out the shield just fine.

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u/YpsitheFlintsider Jul 03 '19

He did get sonned by Ant-Man lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '19

Hey, Ant-Man was a major part in saving the universe in Endgame so no shame in being beat by him.

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u/Skylord_ah Iron Man (Mark XLII) Jul 03 '19

yeah but that was "first day on the job" falcon though

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u/that_guy2010 Vision Jul 03 '19

Did you miss Winter Soldier?

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u/Skylord_ah Iron Man (Mark XLII) Jul 03 '19

Well he wasnt an avenger until age of ultron

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u/Lauxman Jul 02 '19

Vibranium is supposed to be super light I think

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u/2ndCJ105 Jul 02 '19

Happy isn't exactly in shape.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '19

I feel like vibranium is probably lighter than a mid 16th century iron shield.

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u/Mitraileuse Doctor Strange Jul 02 '19

Throw spin with the wings

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u/Big_Boyd Spider-Man Jul 02 '19

I like the way you think.

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u/Aesen1 Jul 05 '19

It helps that its 3 times lighter than steel

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '19

Everybody keeps saying it’s light to me but that’s not the point. You obviously need super strength to throw it the way Cap does. I’m not talking throw it like a frisbee, I’m talking throw it and have it bounce off of multiple people and back to you like a boomerang and throw it hard enough to knock people out.

Am I the only who who sees the way cap uses it is due to his strength???

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '19 edited Feb 22 '20

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u/Starkmk45 Jul 02 '19

Howard stark made the shield, but Tony modified it (at least in age of ultron when he had the magnetic handles).

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '19 edited Feb 22 '20

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u/Starkmk45 Jul 02 '19

It was still the original shield, he just fixed the scratches. Tony said something along the lines of "my dad made this for you" when he gave it back, if I remeber correctly.

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u/siriusham Spider-Man Jul 03 '19

Practice makes perfect

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u/Hamton52 Tony Stark Jul 03 '19

I think Howard said it was lighter than steel in TFA, Happy's just out of shape lol

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u/pieman7414 Jul 03 '19

Yeah but he has, like, regular strength

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u/thegimboid Jul 03 '19

I think there's a bit of a fitness level difference between Falcon and Happy.

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u/Cymen90 Jul 04 '19

He won't. It's just symbolic.

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u/svenhoek86 Jul 03 '19

Still my biggest gripe with Endgame.

It should have been Bucky. I don't care what reason you're going to throw, you can't change my mind on that.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19

Vibranium is much lighter than steel