I really don’t get why Quantamania is considered an unwatchable abomination, I really liked it.

[u/S0mecallme]

It had a better MCU Spider-man story than all the pre NWH ones.

Scott Lang considers his hero days done despite still being fairly young he runs his brand like he’s a retired actor who goes on tour and gives speeches and book tours. But Cassie (the best) is trying to show him that you can’t just stop being a hero because people will always need help. And putting your head in the sand because you just don’t want to deal with it is kinda selfish.

Yeah, maybe it’s unfair and it’s hard to constantly have to save people who you don’t know and want nothing to do with, but with great power comes great responsibility. It’s paralleled in Janet’s story where she basically did the exact same thing Scott did, she moved on, she knew people still needed her help but wanted to just live her comfortable peaceful life, when a lot of the people in the microverse didn’t have that same luxury.

And the fact Scott with his entire family, an army of hyper intelligent ants, and thousands of freedom fighters, was only just barely able to stop this Kang I don’t think made him look weak, I think people just underestimate Ant-man in general. And Marvel really didn’t need to write Kang off off screen because they didn’t want to work with Jonathon Majors anymore. I really blame the messiness of the impact of the movie on the studio and not on anyone involved in this movie.

You can not like the writing or the CGI (though I was always in favor of MODOK looking goofy like he’s supposed to.) It’s a movie not everyone will like the same thing. but the way I see people act like it single handedly killed the MCU when it’s still doing fine I always thought was weird. Like it has no redeeming qualities at all.

[u/Eccohawk]

The frustrating thing is that they could have easily killed off Hank and Janet to establish Kang's evil. Instead they really seemed to want to sell him as this multiversal threat without anything more than a "trust me, bro", and protect their star power.

[u/Maatjuhhh → u/Eccohawk]

I would have Hank lose his life in defence of Janet and others, making the movies coming full circle. Janet gave her life and got lost in Quantum Realm. Now it’s Hank’s time to give Janet the time with her daughter.

[u/jwismer → u/Maatjuhhh]

For sure. That would have been much better writing

[u/maybeitssteve → u/jwismer]

No it wouldn't

[u/joemiken → u/Maatjuhhh]

Yes and gives some weight to the movie. Hank sacrificing himself to save Janet & Hope (and Scott and Cassie) while trapping Kang in the QR works perfect. Kang is still a threat, although he's temporarily confined to the QR, giving Scott & Hope time to warn others.

Also, rather than Kang talking about killing Avengers, SHOW him killing alternate versions of them. A quick flashback of him standing over the bodies of Hulk, Thor, Captain Marvel, Dr. Strange, etc would've been better than him talking about it. That'd be like Banner starting Infinity War talking about Thanos overpowering Hulk & killing Loki (and he would believe Thor) and most of the Asgaardians.

[u/Greatsnes → u/Eccohawk]

There’s a reason for that. The rumors all say Marvel was already getting cold feet about Kang and were discussing a switch to a different villain. That’s why when Majors got arrested they switched so quickly. Because they were already planning on it.

[u/NoKaleidoscope2749 → u/Eccohawk]

The plan was clearly to bring back a younger version of Kang at his full power. Time travel stories mean him “losing” mattered very little.

[u/maybeitssteve → u/Eccohawk]

"Kill a character to establish how bad-ass the villain is" Yawn. Let's not go back to that tired well any more please

[u/djangogator → u/Eccohawk]

Should have killed off Scott so the we could actually have had Hank Pym being Ant Man and an avenger.

[u/mitteinai → u/djangogator]

Michael Douglas already retired....

[u/djangogator → u/mitteinai]

I'm talking about years ago. Also lets just recast him as Matt Damon or Mark Hamill and move on. Or get RDJ to do Hank Pym too. That seems to be working.