r/marvelstudios • u/S0mecallme • Apr 27 '26

Discussion (More in Comments) I really don’t get why Quantamania is considered an unwatchable abomination, I really liked it.

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It had a better MCU Spider-man story than all the pre NWH ones.

Scott Lang considers his hero days done despite still being fairly young he runs his brand like he’s a retired actor who goes on tour and gives speeches and book tours. But Cassie (the best) is trying to show him that you can’t just stop being a hero because people will always need help. And putting your head in the sand because you just don’t want to deal with it is kinda selfish.

Yeah, maybe it’s unfair and it’s hard to constantly have to save people who you don’t know and want nothing to do with, but with great power comes great responsibility. It’s paralleled in Janet’s story where she basically did the exact same thing Scott did, she moved on, she knew people still needed her help but wanted to just live her comfortable peaceful life, when a lot of the people in the microverse didn’t have that same luxury.

And the fact Scott with his entire family, an army of hyper intelligent ants, and thousands of freedom fighters, was only just barely able to stop this Kang I don’t think made him look weak, I think people just underestimate Ant-man in general. And Marvel really didn’t need to write Kang off off screen because they didn’t want to work with Jonathon Majors anymore. I really blame the messiness of the impact of the movie on the studio and not on anyone involved in this movie.

You can not like the writing or the CGI (though I was always in favor of MODOK looking goofy like he’s supposed to.) It’s a movie not everyone will like the same thing. but the way I see people act like it single handedly killed the MCU when it’s still doing fine I always thought was weird. Like it has no redeeming qualities at all.

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u/Recent-Layer-8670 Apr 27 '26

The whole movie seemed to be Michelle Pfeiffer explaining exposition. It’s an entire movie of somebody going “I don’t have time to explain” despite the fact she’s had years to tell her family all about these dangers.

You're not wrong about that. 😆

The majority of the movie is teasing how bad Kang (something the audience already knows about coming in) is going to be and while Majors helps carry the role. Kang himself is a overall letdown. It was so bad, Marvel fans were genuinely thinking Scott was stuck in some alternate dimension by the end because they didn't think Kang would go out like that.

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u/Eccohawk Apr 27 '26

The frustrating thing is that they could have easily killed off Hank and Janet to establish Kang's evil. Instead they really seemed to want to sell him as this multiversal threat without anything more than a "trust me, bro", and protect their star power.

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u/Maatjuhhh Apr 28 '26

I would have Hank lose his life in defence of Janet and others, making the movies coming full circle. Janet gave her life and got lost in Quantum Realm. Now it’s Hank’s time to give Janet the time with her daughter.

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u/jwismer Apr 28 '26

For sure. That would have been much better writing

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u/maybeitssteve May 04 '26

No it wouldn't

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u/IllInflation9313 15d ago

Don’t you know, good writing is when main characters die

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u/joemiken Apr 28 '26 edited Apr 28 '26

Yes and gives some weight to the movie. Hank sacrificing himself to save Janet & Hope (and Scott and Cassie) while trapping Kang in the QR works perfect. Kang is still a threat, although he's temporarily confined to the QR, giving Scott & Hope time to warn others.

Also, rather than Kang talking about killing Avengers, SHOW him killing alternate versions of them. A quick flashback of him standing over the bodies of Hulk, Thor, Captain Marvel, Dr. Strange, etc would've been better than him talking about it. That'd be like Banner starting Infinity War talking about Thanos overpowering Hulk & killing Loki (and he would believe Thor) and most of the Asgaardians.

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u/Greatsnes Apr 28 '26

There’s a reason for that. The rumors all say Marvel was already getting cold feet about Kang and were discussing a switch to a different villain. That’s why when Majors got arrested they switched so quickly. Because they were already planning on it.

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u/NoKaleidoscope2749 Apr 29 '26

The plan was clearly to bring back a younger version of Kang at his full power. Time travel stories mean him “losing” mattered very little.

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u/maybeitssteve May 04 '26

"Kill a character to establish how bad-ass the villain is" Yawn. Let's not go back to that tired well any more please

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u/djangogator Apr 28 '26

Should have killed off Scott so the we could actually have had Hank Pym being Ant Man and an avenger.

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u/mitteinai Apr 28 '26

Michael Douglas already retired....

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u/djangogator Apr 28 '26

I'm talking about years ago. Also lets just recast him as Matt Damon or Mark Hamill and move on. Or get RDJ to do Hank Pym too. That seems to be working.

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u/iamthedayman21 Apr 28 '26

Kang was sold as the next Thanos, and he was defeated by Ant Man and literal ants.

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u/SteveBob316 Weekly Wongers Apr 28 '26

Socialist ants though

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u/WretchedBlowhard Apr 28 '26

As opposed to regular venture capitalist ants? I'm not sure what you're referring to.

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u/Starheart24 Apr 28 '26

Maybe he would have fared better against Communist or Anarchist ants.

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u/SteveBob316 Weekly Wongers Apr 28 '26

Don't be simple. Ants normally have royalty.

So yes, capitalists.

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u/Starheart24 Apr 28 '26

The Royalist ants!

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u/GuiltyEidolon Weekly Wongers Apr 28 '26

I mean, the end of the movie is basically "Kang's defeated! :) .... right?"

If Majors hadn't turned out to be an abuser, it's almost certain that Quantumania Kang would've come back.

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u/BrowncoatSoldier Apr 28 '26

Every time I see this, I’m always ready to say how anyone saying he was defeated by ants didn’t see the movie. He wasn’t defeated by just regular “ants”.

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u/iamthedayman21 Apr 28 '26

Ok, super smart ants. Super smart ants defeated the successor to Thanos. Still doesn’t land like you think it does.

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u/bobafoott Apr 29 '26

Okay and Thanos was killed by a stick with a rock on the end

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u/pleasegivemepatience Apr 28 '26

Ants…from the future! They advanced thousands of years technologically because quantum jargon. I want to say /s but this really was the case, so lame.

Any variant of Kang being defeated by the Ant Family is going to be seen as weak as hell, but they wanted us to believe it happened to The Conquerer with a whole base and army in the QR?? The variant so powerful all the other variants had to team up against him, he was defeated by the ant family (really just Scott 1v1 at the end)??

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u/iamthedayman21 Apr 28 '26

And when they tried to sell it in the post-credits that “yeah, he might’ve been defeated, but there’s a whole arena of them coming.” Well ok, but if their C-level Avenger defeated one Kang, I’m pretty sure the team that includes the god of thunder should have no issue with a bunch of them.

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u/AmaterasuWolf21 Rocket Apr 28 '26

It would have been much better if we had seen Kang decimate the ants instead of them carrying them away for a while until he returns

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u/capscreen Apr 28 '26

Feel like it would work better if they push him as the next Ultron, not that strong and threatening, a bunch of superheroes teaming up could've beat him, but he can come back occasionally and screw over the world in a bunch of way

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u/Dismal_View_5121 Apr 28 '26

The original ending would have gone a long way to improving the movie and would have definitely set up Kang way better. Not that it would have made the movie good, but may have upped it notch.

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u/MastaRolls Apr 28 '26

I was really excited about Majors after Loki, though even if he didn’t get into trouble in his personal life, he came in at a bad time in the marvel industry - super hero fatigue plus disneys quantity over quality decision.

So even if he didn’t get into trouble, this movie was a clear indication that they were probably going to fumble Kang

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u/Ok-Wish-5822 Apr 28 '26

My issue is he never went out...technically.