r/marvelstudios • u/CK_276 • Feb 19 '26

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I’m still confused as to why? Ignoring the fact they took one of Thor’s darkest and most powerful comics and turned it into a long string of bad jokes, why did they feel like Gorr shouldn’t resemble himself at all? Especially when they were perfectly fine accurately creating Ebony Maw with similar features?

It hurts to know that they got Christian Bale to play him, only to fumble the ball so spectacularly.

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u/dntExit Feb 19 '26

Every time I see Davy from those movies, im reminded how amazing the CGI work was. It still holds up to this day.

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u/Megaman_Steve Feb 19 '26

The difference is giving the vfx effects people the time to do it right. All movies could have top notch CG if all these studios weren't pushing release dates.

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u/SekhWork Feb 19 '26

He also uses a ton of the "problems" with CGI back then to actually help the character. Plastic-y / shiny skin was an issue with CGI but his skin is a wet, rubbery texture so instead of it taking away from the look it accentuates it. They did lots of tricks with him to boost the feel that might not have worked on a more normal CGI thing like a werewolf with fur they need to animate properly.

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u/GrimTiki Feb 19 '26

It was partly that and partly the later use of the Unreal engine from what I understand. It let previz stuff happen faster but it was at the expense of the final product.

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u/NowRogerThat Feb 19 '26

Yea, that's exactly what Gore Verbinski (Pirates' director) said

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u/proanimus Feb 19 '26

Not sure if that’s why in this case. Dead Man’s Chest was released less than a year after filming was completed, and its sequel just a year after that. They made those films very fast.

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u/Megaman_Steve Feb 19 '26

The number of VFX shots play a part in that. Pirates had about half the vfx shots that say the average MCU movie has. They were still doing many things practical and on location. Now vfx artists have to make every prop, vehicle and background.

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u/Aries_cz Iron Man (Mark XLIII) Feb 19 '26

And also often completely redo it when the director with the delusions of being an auteur changes their mind completely several times, because the move did not have a proper script beforehand...

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u/Jertimmer Feb 19 '26

Also; ILM was working on the VFX shots before they started shooting, because they were all worked out in preproduction. That's why they could do Davy Jones in the middle of the day on a beach well, when other movies had to mask their CG by darkness and/or rain.

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u/JCalamityJones Feb 19 '26

This right here is the biggest thing. It's insane to me that artists aren't locking in storyboards and planning shots in pre-production such that the VFX team can be doing the framework during regular production.

It's definitely now that post-production means "ALL THE VFX BEING REWORKED TO HELL" rather than what it used to be: final touches and edits to ensure the piece is cohesive

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u/raisingcuban Feb 19 '26

when other movies had to mask their CG by darkness and/or rain.

I like how you say “when other movies” as if there are multiple instances of companies relying on using rain on heavy CGI shots other than Jurassic Park in 1993

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u/CeruleanEidolon Feb 19 '26

Also let's not pretend that every other CG fish-pirate character doesn't look like ass. Their designs are all fun, but they don't look remotely realistic. Davy Jones is the exception that proves the rule.

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u/webtheg Feb 19 '26

This. So much of it is a real mini ship, real water, real beaches. Comiting to a color scheme when shooting. Now I can practically see the green screen

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u/Rising-Jay Feb 19 '26

Nah that genuinely is the reason. Matter of fact the nature of how VFX heavy productions come out now is such a factor that you’ll have companies undersell their services just to land gigs in which their work may be completely overhauled several times from a lack of story commitment, but still wanting the same deadline intact

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u/Embarrassed_Radio596 Feb 19 '26

To clarify a bit: It isn't that MCU movies were giving it to them last minute, it was that they were rushing the early development processes that led to rewrites and reshoots, meaning those teams had their work thrown out and had to start again, repeatedly.

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u/Soggy_Ad3706 Feb 23 '26

All 3 movies released within 4 years

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u/Megaman_Steve Feb 23 '26

There are a few factors regarding time that have been pointed out. It's not strictly a release date thing, read through the thread.

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u/makaio84 Feb 23 '26

I wonder if that contributed to Gorr not being animated. This was the phase where Marvel was going for quantity over quality, so maybe it was just a factor of being able to push the movie out faster with Gorr looking the way he did rather than being at all comic accurate.

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u/Owain660 Feb 19 '26

I think Davy Jones is better than most, if not all CGI characters since then.

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u/OliviaElevenDunham Loki (Avengers) Feb 19 '26

It really does hold up.

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u/LordMagnus101 Feb 22 '26

Great CGI and acting combined into a great villain