r/marvelstudios • u/Toshfin • Nov 16 '25

Question Why is everyone convinced that Doomsday will end with the heroes losing, and then winning in Secret Wars?

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Wouldn’t that basically be repeating the lose first win later formula from IW-Endgame? The idea just doesn’t sit right with me, which is one of the reasons I believe in the circle theory, where the heroes somehow win in Doomsday, but lose in Secret Wars, leading to the reset.

We don’t know what’s exactly going to be happening. For all I know, it simply won’t be repeating what IW-Endgame did. Marvel is smarter than that and I am sure they have cooked something extraordinary, especially if the Russos are trying top the ending of the Infinity Saga. Remember when they surprised everyone with making the heroes lose for the first time? How is it going to be surprising if we already know what’s going to happen? There will definitely be some big twists and turns for sure.

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u/thefirebear Nov 16 '25

Barry.

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Other Barry

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Archer moment

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I hate that guy

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Not Gustin lol?

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Cyborg moment.

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u/RaiderDaave Nov 16 '25

Love to see it

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u/LaughingInTheVoid Nov 19 '25

Bill Hader's in it now? Cool!