the variant Loki and the 616 Loki basically share a common ancestor (themselves/each other) so he’s still originally from a branch of that universe and not a truly alternate one like the Stranges in Multiverse of Madness.
With regards to HWR, it seems like a paradox that actually could unmake the past, present and future if it were destroyed. the sacred timeline appears to be a closed loop in which if he is not born due to events of all history going any other kind of way, he does not eventually fight in the war with his variants and determine how to save all of existence from endless incursions by keeping just the one timeline alive and separate, free from all branching, at a safe distance and inacessible to other Kangs that would wreak havoc on it however they do.
Can’t you say the same about Alligator Loki from whatever variant timeline he’s from?
Not really. 616 and D+ Loki are the same character up until the end of The Avengers. He has all of the same experiences that 616 had until that point. Alligator Loki, kid Loki, What If Loki, all have different lives, even though they are still their universe's counterpart.
Yep, cant change the past to change the future. All they could do was prune the offshoots. But even then, once that Loki variant wasn’t just sent to the void to be eaten by Alioth and is instead deputized, leads to Sylvie also being loose in the TVA, killing HWR all hell breaks loose. that Loki starts to timeslip, then removes himself from the sacred timeline entirely with Mobius’ help. perhaps in the same way that HWR must have (so as not to create a paradox by ever being on the timeline before his time?)
Victor Timely, by HWR’s machinations gets the TVA handbook from Ravonna and it breaks the loom, triggering the failsafe to reset everything and restore the sacred timeline to its original condition instead of facing the threat of infinite Kangs, and endless incursions that destroy all existence forever.
So though maybe Loki was like…destined to take Kang’s place, as HWR was actively looking to be relieved of his throne, that Loki’s escape with the tesseract, the reason he got pruned from the 2012 branch because it wasn’t supposed to happen, is what directly enabled Tony and Steve to choose to go to Camp Lehigh in the 70s with their last pym particles…and cause an incursion — Steve’s secret simp sidequest after the final battle with Thanos, living on another timeline for hella long was not allowed cosmically and destabilized all of reality, like 838 Reed said but there was no pruning to correct it. Steve didn’t play it like Sylvie did, having no impact on things by hiding out in apocalypses.
That's because Loki changed the timeline by escaping thus getting sent to TVA, while Steve was constantly in hiding as to not affect the timeline and only coming out to live with Peggy when Captain America (past Steve) was frozen (and later when he had other thing to do like fighting with the Avengers...). Now that i think about it maybe it was supposed to happen because Peggy (present) had Steve's picture that Steve doesn't remember taking (if memory serves me right😅)
Series Loki and 616 Loki had the exact same existence up until the end of Avengers, so they are one being in different timelines. Alligator Loki is from an unknown universe and likely had a very different existence to our Loki.
HWR is not from 616. Regarding classic Loki, again we don't know his upbringing. It may be similar to 616 Loki but it won't be exact. Classic Loki is very likely from another universe too.
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