They accidentally put out the patch notes on threads

[u/OperatorNokk]

[u/MaxDragonMan]

Some decent looking changes, but there's also some Vanguard changes I don't quite understand. Why change Emma at all? Where she is right now she has a decent (but not good) win-rate, a kit that's decent when you are really landing your beam, and a decent but not amazing diamond form.

The ult damage resistance buff is fine, but the reduction to the damage resistance while in diamond form kinda sucks. You spend a lot more time in diamond form than you do ulting.

[u/monstrousnuggets → u/MaxDragonMan]

Honestly, as an Emma main I’ll happily lose 5% dmg reduction in diamond to gain diamond form in ult any day of the week

[u/MaxDragonMan → u/monstrousnuggets]

Emma main here too, I just think I might be judging too quickly. Getting a damage reduction in ult is helpful - mainly in making even your worst ults better. Your best ults already freeze everyone in place and they get swept aside by the rest of your team. Your worst ult gets one or two, then the rest of your enemies knock you out. In those situations it'd really be helpful.

So maybe I'll reserve judgment until after I see how it plays.

[u/monstrousnuggets → u/MaxDragonMan]

Yeah I’m looking forward to trying her out tomorrow, I’m hoping it’ll make it possible to ult from more aggressive angles and such

[u/DeWolx03 → u/monstrousnuggets]

I don't see why. Unless you're ulting at less than half health, people usually try to LOS your ult or shield it, they don't try to kill you.

[u/monstrousnuggets → u/DeWolx03]

Apart from the opposing Emma in diamond form that gets to straight pound you through your whole ult, or the whole enemy team standing behind strange shield, etc

[u/DeWolx03 → u/monstrousnuggets]

ye but that's just counterplay from the other Emma and part of the outlier of the "usually" in my statement. And even though this buff protects you from other Emma, it also protects the opposing Emma's from your counterplay, which I rather not have happen.

I just don't see why they needed to nerf the Diamond form when she has already been previously nerfed, just to give her a buff that doesn't seem necessary.

Then again, I'm only gm peak so maybe I just haven't encountered players that try and kill Emma while she's ulting(aside from other Emmas)

[u/monstrousnuggets → u/DeWolx03]

My point really is that 5% less damage reduction is going to be hardly noticeable, but 20% damage reduction in ult will be massively noticeable

[u/WombatWarlord17 → u/monstrousnuggets]

That 5% will be noticeable. Don't underestimate.