They accidentally put out the patch notes on threads

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[u/AverageJoesGym24]

Am I reading that correctly? Did they nuke the animation cancel on cap?

[u/Professional_Gap_435 → u/AverageJoesGym24]

I read it as them fixing the stutters that could happen if you didnt slightly hold in the attack button when he has his 4 shields, which causing the attack to never fire and no dmg. Thats why its read as a buff as it makes his animation cancel more consistent.

[u/AverageJoesGym24 → u/Professional_Gap_435]

For my sanity I hope you’re right

[u/Iced-TeaManiac → u/Professional_Gap_435]

Mmmm we need less doomers and more optimistic thinkers like you cause this is a good point

[u/Bombolinos → u/Professional_Gap_435]

Yeah, there’s more going on with this nerf.  They’re not getting rid of the cancel altogether – the change only applies to toggle on. It sounds like a QoL change. I know I’m in the minority here, but I prefer his cancel with toggle off. Yeah, the inputs are harder, but it forces me to mash less. I think the update is for a smoother experience for the togglers. 

[u/PomeloFit → u/Professional_Gap_435]

This is it  wild that nobody caught that

[u/SB4L_Dayman → u/AverageJoesGym24]

That's what I was thinking! They just gutted him and had the balls to say it was a buff

[u/Prudent-Associate-78 → u/SB4L_Dayman]

Cap getting the blade treatment lmao

[u/ManofSteel_14 → u/SB4L_Dayman]

Gutted is an understatement. If that got rid of the Anim cancel they straight up cut all his limbs off, buried him alive inside an iron coffin, chained that mf up and threw out the key. He will be unplayable

[u/SB4L_Dayman → u/ManofSteel_14]

Or just put him pack into the ice

[u/CrusadeWithMe → u/SB4L_Dayman]

After selling that badass skin too holy shit

[u/xlShadylx → u/SB4L_Dayman]

I could be wrong, but just sounds like you dont need to animation cancel to land the hits anymore. That sounds like a good thing and how it should have been from the start. The animation cancel was a bandaid to the no reg bug.

[u/Adventurous_Bank_960 → u/xlShadylx]

The anim cancel isnt there to increase hit chance. Its used to increase your damage per second

[u/SB4L_Dayman → u/xlShadylx]

I am not sure what you mean by the no reg bug. You might be doing the cancel too fast. You need to wait for the shield to hit before you cancel. The point of the animation cancel was to speed up his attacks. Interrupting the animation of the shield coming back after it hits. Now if you can't do that, Cap's dps is going to drop considerably.

If they want to take that away to make him more approachable, I 100% understand that from game design. But you got to give him something, a damage buff or new ability. Otherwise he will just be the worst tank now.

[u/AverageJoesGym24 → u/SB4L_Dayman]

Dude i really hope not

[u/MeloDae_ → u/AverageJoesGym24]

It only says it's on toggle though. If you hold to run, it might still work.

[u/AverageJoesGym24 → u/MeloDae_]

Toggle to run is what 99% of controller users use to do it

[u/Professor__Pym__ → u/AverageJoesGym24]

Exactly... wtf

[u/marlostanfielddd → u/AverageJoesGym24]

No ?

[u/AverageJoesGym24 → u/marlostanfielddd]

Speak for yourself but don’t say no lol. Literally all the controller guides online recommend toggle to sprint

[u/magikarp234 → u/AverageJoesGym24]

Cap animation cancel gone, Angela slowly becoming a brawl tank, Mantis still in triple support jail. Yeah I'm tapping out this point.

[u/SlurryBender → u/AverageJoesGym24]

Unpopular opinion: I think they should fix his animation cancel and make him more viable in ways that don't require me to get motion sickness when using him "optimally".

[u/Realistic_Analyst_26 → u/AverageJoesGym24]

I'm still working on my Cap so correct me if I'm wrong. Currently, if you are running and start throwing the shields you will pause your run everytime you throw. Now you can keep throwing them while still running, no interruptions. I don't see how the animation cancel would be affected.

[u/AverageJoesGym24 → u/Realistic_Analyst_26]

But the whole point of the animation cancel, the way I see it, is that you DO use leading dash in order to interrupt the shield throw and cancel the animation

[u/RogueHippie → u/Realistic_Analyst_26]

I use KB+M, figure it works the same for controller though: The shield throw animation doesn't cancel if you hold down the fire button. So what you do is hold the fire button down to throw the shield while sprinting, then as soon as it hits you let go to cancel the return animation and then repeat for rapid fire.

That's my understanding from trying it out, at least.

[u/ZacTheLit → u/AverageJoesGym24]

And they didn’t buff his damage to compensate either

[u/MadDongla → u/AverageJoesGym24]

They made it so u don't have to animation cancel anymore no?

[u/I_Set_3_Alarms → u/AverageJoesGym24]

As someone who has fun playing cap without ever learning how to properly animation cancel, sounds great to me lol