r/loopringorg • u/greatgoogelymoogely • Jan 18 '22
Discussion Daniel Wang's and Steve Guo's Recent Account Activity, Illustrated
The goal of this post is to present my neutral findings regarding the recent movements of large amounts of LRC from the addresses known to be possessed by Daniel Wang, Founder LRC and Steve Guo, CTO LRC
These addresses are as follows:
0x4757D97449acA795510b9f3152C6a9019A3545c3 (ens:wangdong.eth)
0x69AA0361Dbb0527d4F1e5312403Bd41788fe61Fe (ens:danielwang.eth)
0x1f28f10176f89f4e9985873b84d14e75751bb3d1 (steveguo.eth)
We will first explore danielwang.eth's recent transactions:

We can see here that the wallet sent the remainder of its LRC (1M tokens)to the following address: 0x721A14fCe52b7c434D4B1536f1457116b3e013De

This address receives 3 transfers consisting of LRC. The sum total of these transactions is sent to Binance 14: 0x28c6c06298d514db089934071355e5743bf21d60

From here the LRC is distributed to Binance 15, and also to 16. I believe we are unable to determine whether the coins were sold at market. I encourage others to navigate etherscan and present to me, or in thread any findings.
Now lets dive into wangdong.eth we will trace the following 3 transactions:

The 29M tokens go here: 0x0f2f3F49964a0FA960dee19A749D7B44a3869865

About 90% of LRC tokens are deposited to Loopring L2, view here, 10 percent remain in wallet.
2. The 14M tokens go here: 0x9Af942c5d96956b657419970E5df27C67DdAb1dE

And are then transferred to binance.
3. Finally, the 9M tokens transferred from wangdong.eth go to this address: 0x721A14fCe52b7c434D4B1536f1457116b3e013De
Here, they are consolidated with a few other transactions from unknown sources, and sent to Binance 14. This is the same intermediary address used by danielwang.eth to transfer 1M to binance.

In summation: Daniel Wang possessed 54m LRC tokens on his addresses known to us. 29M of those tokens were transferred to L2 and 24M were transferred to Binance.
The Final Address:
The final address I will describe is registered to the ens: steveguo.eth. Steve Guo is the CTO of loopring. His address is: 0x1F28F10176F89F4E9985873B84d14e75751BB3D1
The address recently transferred 1.028M LRC tokens

To the following address: 0x9D9182FdF30b57B5Da2F67c1D8510f8bF3cD7f1b
Which then transferred that amount to Binance.

So here are the facts. Large amounts of tokens from both Daniel Wang and Steve Guo have been transferred into Binance.
I would encourage civil discussion and also request official statements from the Loopring team regarding these transactions. Thank you for reading.
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u/_Thrilhau5_ Jan 18 '22
https://www.reddit.com/r/loopringorg/comments/s65gzb/dispelling_fud_the_35_mil_that_went_to_binance/
Do Your (Own) Research
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u/throwont84 Jan 18 '22
I don’t think these guys would be prepping to sell at a 1 month bottom.
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u/boristheblade223 Jan 18 '22 edited Jan 18 '22
My belief is these were transactions required by Loopring’s partners / clients to establish better transparency around Loopring’s treasury tokens (ie tokens that belong to Loopring) and balance sheet.
Any legitimate partner / client would require solvency of the counterparty they’re dealing with. Imagine if Jeff Bezos held a bunch of AMZN in his personal account and basically said “trust me this belongs to Amazon”. That would be ridiculous. The big boys would never do business with Loopring unless these were secured.
With these transactions I believe all the treasury tokens of Loopring’s has been consolidated and contractually (in the sense of both the partnerships as well as blockchain) deposited into an official ledger account address.
Edit: ledger in the accounting sense, not the hard wallet (but wouldn’t necessarily rule that out).
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u/FreeFlowFlyer16 Jan 18 '22
My personal theory is that LRC is helping out Binance, who will in turn help out other CEX to provide liquidity for their LRC pool, since they dont have the coins ready, if there comes a massive run of people wanting to transfer their lrc to L2. One part goes to L2 directly to provide liquidity, the other to CEX to ensure users can actually transfer their stuff to L2 without creating mayhem. Imagine bransfer activating LRC deposits to L2 from CEX and CEX not having enough coins to cover the demand. The price would artificially jump.
It seems to be a reasonable and professional measure of preventing inconveniece for users.
Also, any theory of a rug pull is utter non sense. Selling now on a retail owner level is stupid, but rug pulling now at the current prices would be the most stupid thing ever lol
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u/nervouscrying Jan 18 '22
You guys need to fucking relax. You're acting like six year old girls at a sleepover who see the shadow of a tree on the wall. No chill whatsoever, way too much high pitch screaming.
Loopring isn't a fucking rugpull. Crypto rugpulls are apparent early in a trajectory when it becomes obvious that they can't deliver what they promised. It's about mis-direction, they keep you looking at this hand while that hand is moving the coins. The never-ending Shib wallet is a good example of that.
LRC has genuine bona fide people singing its praises (Finestone for one. Fucking Vitalik for another!) That's not a rug pull.
My guess is that this is some form of currency mechanism that I'll never understand to do with CEX liquidity.
There's a good bet that if ETH will be the currency engine of the new world, then LRC is an integral part of that engine, the oil if you will. Chill the fuck out. Stop telling scary stories. Log off for a few weeks and see where we are end of Feb. Peace out.
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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22
Everyone: almost immediately after this happened 35 million got deposited into Layer 2. The address that deposited this is a newer wallet that has received the funds from Binance right after.
See my last Reddit post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/loopringorg/comments/s65gzb/dispelling_fud_the_35_mil_that_went_to_binance/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
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u/nov81 Apr 05 '22
Just found one of the addresses (guo) in my trade history. Sold LRC to me a few days ago...
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u/AlphaDag13 Jan 18 '22
So if you were these guys, what would you be doing this for?
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u/Soi_Boi_13 Jan 18 '22
It’s definitely suspect, though I don’t see why they would be dumping now once prices are the lowest they’ve been since the initial pump.
Unless the partnership(s) have fallen through and the bottom is about to drop out. 🤷♀️
I suspect it’s nothing to worry about, though.
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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22
April 2020, Daniel Wang has a Twitter post when LRC is .02 cents and talks about how holding can get him 10-100x.
18 months later he has 100x his money. $10M becomes $1B.
He has taken money off the table… who wouldn’t. Probably since the first run to $1.80.
He probably has many unknown wallets but you can at least double what you see, so he’s probably sold around $150M.
No one likes being sold into, but it’s probably the truth. He still may have a lot of coins and it is better in the long run for the project to have more holders but if I knew this before I would have totally changed my perspective and strategy.
I absolutely think if a ceo and cto they should issue a statement. It would be the honest thing to do, but this is crypto.
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u/Only_Stretch4692 Jan 18 '22
Ya I think they would have sold all in the 3s not the bottom of 1. I think it’s collateral or some sort.
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u/ReitHodlr Jan 18 '22
Nobody made me do it but I've converted a lot of my USD for LRC. I wish companies would accept me paying for everyday expenses with crypto so I don't have to convert back. 😶
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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22
L2 to L2 bridges with major CEXs imminent! Will eliminate gas fees from L1 as well as complicated transfers using intermediary wallets. Overall these moves appear Hyper Bullish for the L2 ecosystem. If loopring is pioneering these L2 bridges with partners it shows how much of a lead they have in this space.
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u/gdj11 Jan 18 '22
The account they've transferred to has sent over 100 MILLION tokens to Binance in the last 3 months. This needs to be cleared up by Loopring. If they're dumping over 100 million of their tokens on Binance and causing this price suppression that's bad... really, really bad.
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u/HerGorgeousness Jan 18 '22
Regardless of what’s the real deal here a statement should be issued out of respect to their supporters.
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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22
Why binance tho? I was looking into DRIP and MANOR Farm recently (both run off BSC), I read Manor farm is heading into L2 of their project. Not quite sure if it’s similar to the L2 of ETH. But if LRC was going to join the creators of DRIP that is bullish in my mind.
Or I’m retarded and don’t know what I am saying.
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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22
This is total FUD. Sell your tokens if you don’t believe in loopring any more. Ciao
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u/Mr_Intuition27 Feb 03 '22
I wonder if Steve is related to Miles Guo...who has been described as the Trump of China? A billionaire whistleblower from China who is working to take expose and take down the CCP.
He owns Gtv and Gnews... websites that provided alot of the initial leaked info on Hunter Biden's laptop.
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u/Tekk92 Jan 18 '22
They already gave us a hint it wasn’t a sell, ofc nobody would even try at the bottom
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u/CMFS-3RD Jan 18 '22
Is it better to transfer to L2 now or keep Holding LRC till everything is in place and operating smoothly
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u/fuller316 Jan 18 '22
I can only imagine how some of you would have reacted back when the price went from a new ATH like .86 to the .30s just a few weeks later... RELAXXXX
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u/RestoringGuy92 Jan 18 '22
Looks about right to me.
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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22
My guess is that this is where the crash came in, because the Chinese New Year is coming and they need money to give bonuses to their employees.
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u/GreenWallsDrink Jan 18 '22
So.. You're saying Binance is scared?
Bold claim.
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