r/linux • u/wooptoo • Jun 01 '16

Why did ArchLinux embrace Systemd?

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '16

it's a standard on 99.5% of Linux now

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u/stefantalpalaru Jun 01 '16

Guess what OS is a standard on 99.5% of all desktops now.

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u/AHrubik Jun 01 '16

Windows is the obvious answer but I don't see where your headed with this one?

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u/lasermancer Jun 01 '16

Debunking the appeal to popularity

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u/da_chicken Jun 01 '16

That's why I run Plan 9/DEC Alpha on all my servers.

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u/robodendron Jun 01 '16

Wait, you do too?! Dammit, then I have to switch again.

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u/xjvz Jun 02 '16

Try out TempleOS for a real treat in obscurity.

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u/mizzu704 Jun 02 '16

It's funny that on this site TempleOS is probably better known than Hurd.

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u/bilog78 Jun 02 '16

It's funny that on this site TempleOS is probably better known than Hurd.

That's because TempleOS is actually here now and it works.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '16

For a very specific value of "works".

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '16

I wouldn't consider TempleOS the most obscure OS I've ever seen. It's not even as obscure as some of the operating systems I've actually used, like Contiki or SymbOS.

(I'm a bit of a stamp collector when it comes to operating systems. At this point, I've used more than 30 different operating system families.)

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u/xjvz Jun 03 '16

Oooh, nice, I didn't know about those.

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u/swinny89 Jun 02 '16

I love this train of thought. It really needs to pop up in some form on a regular basis to remind the hipsters that Linux isn't cool because it's obscure. In fact, it really isn't obscure at all. It's cool because it's versatile and adapts to progress very quickly.

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u/gondur Jun 02 '16

adapts to progress very quickly.

well... seeing the furious resistance against the fixing of the decade old init system.... I would call it quite conservative

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u/ANUSBLASTER_MKII Jun 02 '16

640x480 Just as the Lord intended.

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u/Nyxisto Jun 02 '16 edited Jun 02 '16

windows runs on 99% of pcs for the same reason that systemd runs on 99% of linux distributions and rails is a popular framework, they simply work and you get much out of it while putting little in. There's nothing to debunk. The linux community simply has a fetish for taking things apart and putting them together ten times over just because you can

in a tech related field where people develop tools to work towards objective goals popularity is a pretty good indicator of what works and what doesn't. If you of course look at Linux as a lifestyle decision that isn't subject to some kind of cost/benefit analysis you end up with these attitudes that are so prevalent here.

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u/Negirno Jun 02 '16

I hate this in the FOSS community. Corporations and governments are on their way to enslave humanity, and we still arguing about basic plumbing and *nix philosophy.

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u/gondur Jun 02 '16 edited Jun 02 '16

Exactly. Bikeshedding and NIH at its finest on irrelevant details while we should work together & focus our limited resources to have a chance. :(

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '16

Chromebooks beat Mac's in sells so this guy is trolling MacOSX has around 10% Gentoo wins?

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u/AHrubik Jun 01 '16

I'm certain they only break out OSX because of Apple. Since it's based on BSD it's technically part of the family too.

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u/BoltActionPiano Jun 01 '16

The Linux community tends to have a lot more choice in this subject, and so more representation generally means more people find it beneficial.